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'99-'00 172R vs 172SP: R is good? or the weak little brother?



 
 
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Old April 30th 06, 07:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:14:53 +0000, john smith wrote:

How is it that with the same engine, they develop different HP ratings?
R = 160 BHP @ 2400rpm
S = 180 BHP @ 2700rpm
Is there a governor on the R model?


Throttle restriction.


HP = torque*RPM; or h=t(rpm). If a prop is biting more air, the RPM will
be lower as a result of the higher load on the engine. Thus, the reported
HP will be lower. This is a great example of why comparing HP between cars
is usually a futile and meaningles exercise; especially when the engines
are dramatically different.

To confirm the numbers above for the sake of simple, relative
comparison:
R: t=160/2400; t = 0.067
S: t=180/2700; t = 0.067

Seems like the engines are following the same torque curve to me.

For more reading...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque

Greg


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Old May 1st 06, 04:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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"Greg Copeland" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:14:53 +0000, john smith wrote:

How is it that with the same engine, they develop different HP ratings?
R = 160 BHP @ 2400rpm
S = 180 BHP @ 2700rpm
Is there a governor on the R model?


Throttle restriction.


HP = torque*RPM; or h=t(rpm). If a prop is biting more air, the RPM will
be lower as a result of the higher load on the engine. Thus, the reported
HP will be lower. This is a great example of why comparing HP between cars
is usually a futile and meaningles exercise; especially when the engines
are dramatically different.

To confirm the numbers above for the sake of simple, relative
comparison:
R: t=160/2400; t = 0.067
S: t=180/2700; t = 0.067

Seems like the engines are following the same torque curve to me.

For more reading...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque

Greg

Our club recently bought an R that had supposedly been re-propped to be
180hp. I was unsure about this but from what you're saying, it's
possible...


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Old May 1st 06, 06:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Robert Barker wrote:

Our club recently bought an R that had supposedly been re-propped to be
180hp. I was unsure about this but from what you're saying, it's
possible...


It'll probably take a STC to do this, but it should be extremely easy
to do. The engines are exactly the same O360-L2A. You can get all
that info right from their website.

 




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