PING: Jim Logajan

On Sat, 13 May 2006 00:02:07 -0000, Skywise wrote:


IMHO, this is more a good practise to use cleanfeed etc. (spam
prevention) filtred access is more a "we filter all postings from
@foo.bar"

The problem with Supersucks is not spam. The problem is they
are blocking legit postings from upstanding users simply because
they are using a particular news provider, and refusing to explain
their actions, much less even acknowledge that they do so.

I know. I just wanted to clear the point cleanfeed vs. filter

Now, it's one thing for an NSP to not have a peering relationship
with another NSP, but due to the very nature of the system, the
messages will get propogated anyway.

I know. I run my own newsserver.

However, Supersucks is actively blocking ALL messages that originate
from certain NSP's regardless of content and routing. This is a
de facto UDP (usenet death penalty), even if it's not an official
one.

I tend to agree with you (the tending is solely due to the wording UDP).

As I understand it, UDP's are agreed to by consensus among several
NSP's and reasons are given and discussed. As near as I can tell,
Supersucks is attempting a unilateral UDP all by themselves for
reasons unknown - at least as far as I've been able to find. If
anyone knows different, I'm all ears.

ACK

Also, it's one thing to attempt to filter out the obvious spam
and other nasties on usent, but these messages that are being
blocked do not fall under this category.

agreed.

For all I know, the owner of Supersucks and Newsfeeds were dating
and Newsfeeds dumped Supersucks and now Supersucks is acting like
a ****y little teenybopper in retaliation. I don't know. They refuse
to discuss anything related to this issue while they have gladly
discussed other issues and filtering policies.

so let economics make the decision. Bad service ... less customers, less
money. Problem is (IIRC): most customers don't see the problem.

Brian


if there is a need for text only access to newsgroups I might help you
there. We have more than 30 newspeerings up and running, but we currently
have only rec.aviation.* and az.* as one of the english speaking groups,
well - + novell.* *g*. [1] Let me hear if you are interested in (free)
access and what groups you might need (NO binaries!) and I will see if I
can work something out for the folks of rec.aviation.* (as a complimentary
service, of course!)

#m

[1] read more he http://service.hotze.com/usenet/peering.htm
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Martin Hotze wrote in
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On Sat, 13 May 2006 00:02:07 -0000, Skywise wrote:
Snipola
For all I know, the owner of Supersucks and Newsfeeds were dating
and Newsfeeds dumped Supersucks and now Supersucks is acting like
a ****y little teenybopper in retaliation. I don't know. They refuse
to discuss anything related to this issue while they have gladly
discussed other issues and filtering policies.

so let economics make the decision. Bad service ... less customers, less
money. Problem is (IIRC): most customers don't see the problem.

Well, then I guess I need to start spamming all the newsgroups
to let the Supersucks customers know they are getting shafted?
Hmmm...If I crosspost to 9 groups at a time....



Brian
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