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Old May 17th 06, 08:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dean
What is the difference in size and payload between the F4 and Flight 77?

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Old May 18th 06, 01:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Ol Shy & Bashful" wrote in
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Dean
What is the difference in size and payload between the F4 and Flight 77?


You need to go back to high school and sit in on the physics
class on kinetic energy. This time, pay attention instead of
wanking off over the cheerleader sitting in front of you.

Damn. If I were rich, I would pay for a re-enactment of the
Pentagon and Twin Towers crashes into re-creations of both
structures using remote controlled aircraft. It would be
worth the millions of dollars just to hear all you conspiracy
whacks sit in silence with nary a retort.

Out government is screwed up enough as it is without a bunch
of idiots making **** up. If you put your energies into fixing
all the real problems instead of all the imaginary ones, this
Country would be much better off than it currently is.

Brian
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Old May 18th 06, 02:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Skywise" wrote in message
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"Ol Shy & Bashful" wrote in
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Dean
What is the difference in size and payload between the F4 and Flight 77?


You need to go back to high school and sit in on the physics
class on kinetic energy. This time, pay attention instead of
wanking off over the cheerleader sitting in front of you.

Damn. If I were rich, I would pay for a re-enactment of the
Pentagon and Twin Towers crashes into re-creations of both
structures using remote controlled aircraft. It would be
worth the millions of dollars just to hear all you conspiracy
whacks sit in silence with nary a retort.


That wouldn't shut them up; they'd say it was part of the conspiracy.

"Ignorance is bliss!!"


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Old May 18th 06, 03:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Brian
High School classes and aircraft crash investigations? Wanking off?
Surely you jest? My post asked some questions. Do YOU have the
answers?
I HAVE NEVER been to an aircraft crash site, especially a jet aircraft,
that didn't leave big pieces of wreckage. The pieces that I saw in the
video were not impressive and hand held. The wreckage I am accustomed
to needed to be picked up by tow trucks and put on flat beds. Airspeeds
at time of impact varied but the only one I can think of off hand that
was really FAST is the space shuttle which was going how fast?
What is your contribution to making this country better? Talk is cheap.

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Old May 18th 06, 04:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Ol Shy & Bashful" wrote in message
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Brian
High School classes and aircraft crash investigations? Wanking off?
Surely you jest? My post asked some questions. Do YOU have the
answers?
I HAVE NEVER been to an aircraft crash site, especially a jet aircraft,
that didn't leave big pieces of wreckage.


Whoopie Doo!

The biggest piece of wreckage at the Stewart Payne site was about 4" in
size. There was no fire, in contrast with an aircraft loaded with thousands
of gallons of fuel.


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Old May 18th 06, 11:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Ol Shy & Bashful" wrote in
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Brian
High School classes and aircraft crash investigations? Wanking off?
Surely you jest? My post asked some questions. Do YOU have the
answers?


Have you seen the footage of the F4 crashing into the conrete wall?

QED

Brian
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Old May 22nd 06, 03:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Ol Shy & Bashful wrote:
Brian
High School classes and aircraft crash investigations? Wanking off?
Surely you jest? My post asked some questions. Do YOU have the
answers?
I HAVE NEVER been to an aircraft crash site, especially a jet aircraft,
that didn't leave big pieces of wreckage. The pieces that I saw in the
video were not impressive and hand held. The wreckage I am accustomed
to needed to be picked up by tow trucks and put on flat beds. Airspeeds
at time of impact varied but the only one I can think of off hand that
was really FAST is the space shuttle which was going how fast?
What is your contribution to making this country better? Talk is cheap.


The conspiracy web sites are very selective in which pictures they
show. There are plenty of pictures showing aircraft engines, landing
gear, and pieces taller than a man, but the conspiracy sites will not
show them. You can find them in any serious publication dealing with
the attacks, however.

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Old May 22nd 06, 03:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"cjcampbell" wrote

The conspiracy web sites are very selective in which pictures they
show. There are plenty of pictures showing aircraft engines, landing
gear, and pieces taller than a man, but the conspiracy sites will not
show them. You can find them in any serious publication dealing with
the attacks, however.


Why, I'm surprised at you, CJ. You know darn full well that all of those
big parts were trucked in there for those pictures! bfg
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Old May 18th 06, 10:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Skywise wrote in
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"Ol Shy & Bashful" wrote in
ups.com:

Dean
What is the difference in size and payload between the F4 and Flight
77?


You need to go back to high school and sit in on the physics
class on kinetic energy. This time, pay attention instead of
wanking off over the cheerleader sitting in front of you.

Damn. If I were rich, I would pay for a re-enactment of the
Pentagon and Twin Towers crashes into re-creations of both


In the absence of copious amounts of money, would the following help?

http://www.purdue.edu/UNS/html4ever/....Pentagon.html

http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simulation/phase1/

http://www.cs.purdue.edu/cgvlab/projects/pentagon.htm

http://www.cs.purdue.edu/cgvlab/pape...gonVIS2003.mpg

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Old May 19th 06, 07:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Doesn't matter. A pound of aluminum in and F-4 weighs the same as a
pound of aluminum in a 757. Energy = 1/2mV^2 At over 400 knots,
there is a lot of energy in every pound of aluminum.

It is not necessary to melt the aluminum either to make the airplane
indistinguishable. Ablation is a process in which the aluminum is
pulverized by impact with a solid object. It is essentially ground up.
If you look at the video of the F-4, you will see that he aluminum is
literally being ground up by the impact with the concrete barrier. The
Pentagon is a very substantial stone building, and the 757 still
managed to punch through several of its rings. I am not surprised that
there are not many distinguishable pieces left. Also remember that
there was a post crash fire, and aluminum does burn when it gets hot
enough.

Same thing with flight 93. It went straight into the ground at high
speed. This is unlike the U.S. Air 737 that crashed on approach due to
a rudder hard over. The airspeed at impact was much higher for these
intentional crashes than for the unintentional crashes due to starting
the dive from a much higher alitude, and going straight in in a clean
vs. dirty drag configuration...

Am I just casting my pearls here, or does this make sense to you?

Dean

 




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