Dumb & Dumber

Jay Honeck schrieb:

sturdy-yet delicate structure of the Cherokee's stabilator knows that it was
never designed for asymmetric twisting forces like that girl imposed, and
God only knows what hidden damage may have been wrought in those few seconds
of awesome stupidity.

That stabilizer is designed to stand much more twisting force than any
real life girl could ever apply to it. Otherwise it would come off
during the first reasonable bumpy flight. (Nevertheless you shouldn't do
what she had done, of course.)

Stefan

That stabilizer is designed to stand much more twisting force than any
real life girl could ever apply to it. Otherwise it would come off during
the first reasonable bumpy flight. (Nevertheless you shouldn't do what she
had done, of course.)

There are two stabilator attach points that would have been under tremendous
twisting load with her pushing waaaay out at the end of the "arm" of the
stabilator. I can't think of any in-flight condition that would put such an
asymmetric load on the bird.

Also, you must figure that the plane is 30+ years old. God knows how many
other times those attach points have been subjected to overload.

I cringe every time I think of it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Also, you must figure that the plane is 30+ years old. God knows how many
other times those attach points have been subjected to overload.

I cringe every time I think of it.

I wish planes (especially rental planes) had "Do not push here!" stenciled
on tempting but inappropriate places to push. That would be as useful as
many of the other placards.

--Gary

Gary Drescher wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Also, you must figure that the plane is 30+ years old. God knows how many
other times those attach points have been subjected to overload.

I cringe every time I think of it.

I wish planes (especially rental planes) had "Do not push here!" stenciled
on tempting but inappropriate places to push. That would be as useful as
many of the other placards.


I remember looking at the stickers on the control surfaces of a Yak at
SMO some years back.

They said "NO PUSHSKI"

As for the pair featured in Jay's posting, I gotta wonder:

What kind of guy sends The Girl to push the plane?

What kind of girl puts up with it?

-jav

What kind of guy sends The Girl to push the plane?

I'm embarrased to say (but I was young, at the time), that I used to
have an old VW bug! I had to park it on hills, because 7 times out of
10 it had to be jump started. My wife (girlfriend at the time) used to
have to give me a bit of a push, from time to time, when we got into
situations that warranted it. I tried many times to have her behind
the wheel, but she just couldn't seem to figure out the whole "popping
the clutch" thing.

What kind of girl puts up with it?

Mine, thank God!!! We've been together for nearly 22 years now, and we
still laugh about how I managed to "land her", after having had her
push start my car to go on dates with me! :-)

To this day, I still open the door for her, pump gas for her and try to
do all the things a guy should do for his gal. I'm just glad she gave
a 17 year old knuck-head the benefit of the doubt! (She does know,
however, not to touch the delicate parts of the plane though!)

Best Regards,
Todd

What kind of guy sends The Girl to push the plane?

I'm embarrased to say (but I was young, at the time), that I used to
have an old VW bug! I had to park it on hills, because 7 times out of
10 it had to be jump started. My wife (girlfriend at the time) used to
have to give me a bit of a push, from time to time, when we got into
situations that warranted it.

When Mary and I first started dating, I owned a '72 VW 411. In its
hey-day, it was a fine car, with a Porsche pancake engine, and some
really unique features.

Unfortunately, I owned it long after its hey-day. The gasoline heater
would pump smoky carbon-monoxide directly into the passenger
compartment, which -- in Wisconsin, in the dead of winter -- meant that
we either froze to death or asphyxiated. We usually chose the former,
which meant that poor Mary had to scrape the windshield -- on the
INSIDE -- in order for me to see. (Hey, at least she kept warm that
way!)

And I felt bad about *THAT*. At least she didn't have to push-start
the 411!

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote

The gasoline heater
would pump smoky carbon-monoxide directly into the passenger
compartment,

Gasoline heater? How does that work? (resist the temptation to say "not
very well!") g
--
Jim in NC

Unfortunately, I owned it long after its hey-day. The gasoline heater
would pump smoky carbon-monoxide directly into the passenger
compartment, which -- in Wisconsin, in the dead of winter -- meant that
we either froze to death or asphyxiated. We usually chose the former,
which meant that poor Mary had to scrape the windshield -- on the
INSIDE -- in order for me to see. (Hey, at least she kept warm that
way!)

ummm... yeah... speaking of windshield... My windshield wipers had a
work/not work ratio similar to the starter. I spent many rainy nights
driving down the road with my right hand on the wheel, and my left arm
getting soaked using my left hand as a windshield wiper!

That car sucked!!! I sure do miss it... ;-)

Cheers,
Todd

Javier wrote:
What kind of guy sends The Girl to push the plane?

A lazy one who takes the "I'd do it, but since the door is on your side
and you have to get out *anyway* ..."

What kind of girl puts up with it?

One who thinks she's helping?

Javier wrote:
Gary Drescher wrote:

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Also, you must figure that the plane is 30+ years old. God knows how
many other times those attach points have been subjected to overload.

I cringe every time I think of it.


I wish planes (especially rental planes) had "Do not push here!"
stenciled on tempting but inappropriate places to push. That would be
as useful as many of the other placards.



I remember looking at the stickers on the control surfaces of a Yak at
SMO some years back.

They said "NO PUSHSKI"

As for the pair featured in Jay's posting, I gotta wonder:

What kind of guy sends The Girl to push the plane?

What kind of girl puts up with it?

-jav
I'd push the plane if I thought the other person had to use the rudder.
I'm lucky, I'm a pilot too, so if it requires pushing and rudder I
usually get the rudder duty, but I would push.

Margy