First Pics of Udvar-Hazy Visit

("Peter Duniho" wrote)
You need a broader concept of "art". I've seen plenty of "art" in your
posts, and I mean that in a good way. You obviously have artistic
ability.

Heck, the post in which you claim not to be able to do art, you've done
art.


Thanks Pete, but Aristotle nailed my arse years ago!

The Art of Rhetoric - 4th century B.C.
"Wit is educated insolence." :-)

Some fun quotes from IMDB:
L.A. Story (1991) ...Steve Martin

Harris: I call it performance art, but my friend Ariel calls it wasting
time. History will decide.

Trudi: Sheila has been studying the art of conversation.
Harris: Oh, you're taking a course in conversation?
Sheila: Yes.
[Long pause]

Frank Swan: What do you do for a living, Rollie?
Roland: I deal in English paintings.
Frank Swan: Abstract or realistic?
Roland: Depends on which way you look at them, I suppose.

[Admiring a painting]
Harris: I like the relationships. I mean, each character has his own story.
The puppy is a bit too much, but you have to over look things like that in
these kinds of paintings. The way he's *holding* her... it's almost...
filthy. I mean, he's about to kiss her and she's pulling away. The way the
leg's sort of smashed up against her... Phew... Look how he's painted the
blouse sort of translucent. You can just make out her breasts underneath and
it's sort of touching him about here. It's really... pretty torrid, don't
you think? Then of course you have the onlookers peeking at them from behind
the doorway like they're all shocked. They wish. Yeah, I must admit, when I
see a painting like this, I get emotionally... erect.
[the painting is revealed to be of a red rectangle]


Montblack
[...saving the best for last]
Harris: When I really analyze it, Trudi wasn't for me anyway. The only good
times we had were having sex and laying in bed watching TV.
Ariel: I hate to tell you this, Harris, but if you can find somebody you
can have sex with and lie in bed and watch TV, you've really got something.

Hat tip to Red Green.

My working definition of art: If I can do that - it aint art.

Jay Beckman wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Very interesting facility and well worth visiting.

Isn't it cool, Jay? Our flight there last year will always be a
highlight of our lives.


What can one say when standing face to face with such history. It's
definately a work in progress but I imagine when they eventually incorporate
the Garber facility / Research Library and can seamlessly move back and
forth between restoration/preservation and display area, they'll be able to
have a little more cohesion in each genre. It's just a little bit "asses
and elbows" right now. I did try to picture your family with Atlas out on
the ramp doing the "meet and greet" ... that just must have been a gas.


From a photographic perspective, the lighting and layout make it very
challenging.


Agreed. Almost none of the pictures I took there were worth a damn. The
scale of the place is just way beyond regular flash photography -- and
it's really too dark for anything else.


Reminded me greatly of the USAF Museum at Dayton, OH.

I have to admit I'm pleasantly suprised with the results I managed to
achieve at ISO 400, no flash and a monopod. My 24-105mm lens is an IS
(Image Stablizer) lens and I think it really made a difference. Out of
approx 100-ish images shot, I didn't end up with too many technical
"clunkers" but some suffer from a lack of planning within the frame.
Sometimes I forget to look beyond my subject and make sure the background is
what I want as well.

Next time, I think I'll try a wider-angle lens so I can physically get
closer in order to further isolate specific aircraft and/or aircraft parts.
The thing you have to be careful of with going really wide is the forced
perspective which can make wings and tails look cartoonishly long.

(Envy Mode On...) Of course, in the book that they sell, the photos are all
perfect because the staff shooters had at their disposal a closed museum and
megawatts worth of flash power! (Envy Mode Off...)

Glad you liked the shots.


--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"




Yeah, our photographer is also really good. With the new energy
policies in place it's really dark.

Margy

Margy Natalie wrote:


(Envy Mode On...) Of course, in the book that they sell, the photos
are all perfect because the staff shooters had at their disposal a
closed museum and megawatts worth of flash power! (Envy Mode Off...)

Actually they don't always use a closed museum...it's easily to lose
a few thousand people in Hazy it's so big. What they do have is
lots of slaved flash. It's a little disconcerting to be walking on
the catwalks and some flash there fires off when the photographer
is halfway across the hall.

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...
Margy Natalie wrote:


(Envy Mode On...) Of course, in the book that they sell, the photos are
all perfect because the staff shooters had at their disposal a closed
museum and megawatts worth of flash power! (Envy Mode Off...)

Actually they don't always use a closed museum...it's easily to lose
a few thousand people in Hazy it's so big. What they do have is
lots of slaved flash. It's a little disconcerting to be walking on
the catwalks and some flash there fires off when the photographer
is halfway across the hall.

You can also make people "disappear" in existing light with a very long
shutter speed. Blur thier motion enough and they will cease to exsist.

Jay B