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Old July 24th 06, 06:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_3_]
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"Jim Burns" wrote in message
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Last night around 5-6 pm it was chaotic and non-stop. They were using 36
for IFR arrivals off of Chicago Center, landing both long and short, and
using 9 for VFR arrivals from both the north and south.

They were parking plenty of planes in the N40 and mentioned a lot of

Cessnas
up there so far.


Yes, it was very busy, but it did not sound to be more busy than it was
earlier in the day, at say, 2 or 3.

Part of the chaos was due to the controller who was working at that time. I
hate to be critical, but I listened pretty much all day, and this guy just
was not good at conveying the information in a timely manner. A good part
of the problem (I think) was that he was not calling out the type and color
in a general way, but trying to get specific as to the brand and model.
That just was taking too much time, so he would get behind. He also was not
calm. That attitude showed through. I kept on thinking, someone get this
guy off, before someone gets hurt.

Just my observation, and opinion.
--
Jim in NC

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Old July 24th 06, 07:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
cavelamb
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Morgans wrote:

"Jim Burns" wrote in message
...

Last night around 5-6 pm it was chaotic and non-stop. They were using 36
for IFR arrivals off of Chicago Center, landing both long and short, and
using 9 for VFR arrivals from both the north and south.

They were parking plenty of planes in the N40 and mentioned a lot of


Cessnas

up there so far.



Yes, it was very busy, but it did not sound to be more busy than it was
earlier in the day, at say, 2 or 3.

Part of the chaos was due to the controller who was working at that time. I
hate to be critical, but I listened pretty much all day, and this guy just
was not good at conveying the information in a timely manner. A good part
of the problem (I think) was that he was not calling out the type and color
in a general way, but trying to get specific as to the brand and model.
That just was taking too much time, so he would get behind. He also was not
calm. That attitude showed through. I kept on thinking, someone get this
guy off, before someone gets hurt.

Just my observation, and opinion.


He probably came up from Smallville Municipal for the week.

As much as it loks like a beehive from the air, just imagine what the guy
on the ground feels with all'a them little planes commin' at ya at once!

Richard

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Old July 25th 06, 12:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Burns
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Was that the guy that kept saying "Ok, let's see....where are we at here?"
Then pausing and saying nothing. At one time he repeatedly told an Aerostar
that he was cleared to land and the Aerostar pilot kept telling the
controller that he had two aircraft sitting on the approach end of the
runway. Finally another guy jumped in and told the Aerostar to go around.
At the same time a jet (I forget what type) asked three times "What about
me?"

It was definitely interesting listening to that guy.

Jim

"Morgans" wrote in message
...

"Jim Burns" wrote in message
...
Last night around 5-6 pm it was chaotic and non-stop. They were using 36
for IFR arrivals off of Chicago Center, landing both long and short, and
using 9 for VFR arrivals from both the north and south.

They were parking plenty of planes in the N40 and mentioned a lot of

Cessnas
up there so far.


Yes, it was very busy, but it did not sound to be more busy than it was
earlier in the day, at say, 2 or 3.

Part of the chaos was due to the controller who was working at that time.
I
hate to be critical, but I listened pretty much all day, and this guy just
was not good at conveying the information in a timely manner. A good part
of the problem (I think) was that he was not calling out the type and
color
in a general way, but trying to get specific as to the brand and model.
That just was taking too much time, so he would get behind. He also was
not
calm. That attitude showed through. I kept on thinking, someone get this
guy off, before someone gets hurt.

Just my observation, and opinion.
--
Jim in NC



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Old July 25th 06, 02:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_3_]
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Default say again-- RA parties


"Jim Burns" wrote in message
...
Was that the guy that kept saying "Ok, let's see....where are we at here?"
Then pausing and saying nothing. At one time he repeatedly told an

Aerostar
that he was cleared to land and the Aerostar pilot kept telling the
controller that he had two aircraft sitting on the approach end of the
runway. Finally another guy jumped in and told the Aerostar to go around.
At the same time a jet (I forget what type) asked three times "What about
me?"

It was definitely interesting listening to that guy.


Yep, that was the guy. Scary.
--
Jim in NC

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Old July 25th 06, 04:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Flyingmonk[_1_]
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Morgans wrote:
"Jim Burns" wrote in message
...
Was that the guy that kept saying "Ok, let's see....where are we at here?"
Then pausing and saying nothing. At one time he repeatedly told an

Aerostar
that he was cleared to land and the Aerostar pilot kept telling the
controller that he had two aircraft sitting on the approach end of the
runway. Finally another guy jumped in and told the Aerostar to go around.
At the same time a jet (I forget what type) asked three times "What about
me?"

It was definitely interesting listening to that guy.


Yep, that was the guy. Scary.
--
Jim in NC


Got a link Jim?

Thnx,
Monk

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Old July 25th 06, 04:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Flyingmonk[_1_]
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Flyingmonk wrote:
Morgans wrote:
"Jim Burns" wrote in message
...
Was that the guy that kept saying "Ok, let's see....where are we at here?"
Then pausing and saying nothing. At one time he repeatedly told an

Aerostar
that he was cleared to land and the Aerostar pilot kept telling the
controller that he had two aircraft sitting on the approach end of the
runway. Finally another guy jumped in and told the Aerostar to go around.
At the same time a jet (I forget what type) asked three times "What about
me?"

It was definitely interesting listening to that guy.


Yep, that was the guy. Scary.
--
Jim in NC


Got a link Jim?

Thnx,
Monk


Got a new comp. Lost the link for Osh live feed.

Monk

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Old July 25th 06, 05:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_3_]
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"Flyingmonk" wroteI

Got a link Jim?


I was listening to LiveAtc.net, and I don't think they have archives. I
think there is a site that keeps archives, but I can't remember what, or
find it at the moment.
--
Jim in NC

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Old July 25th 06, 05:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Flyingmonk[_1_]
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Morgans wrote:
"Flyingmonk" wroteI

Got a link Jim?


I was listening to LiveAtc.net, and I don't think they have archives. I
think there is a site that keeps archives, but I can't remember what, or
find it at the moment.
--
Jim in NC


Much thnx Jim.

Monk

 




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