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![]() Da Monk wrote: ... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/ Is that guy landing that thing "wheels up" on the grass or did he retract them that early in the takeoff? Retractable landing gear are not permitted on Light Sport Aircraft. Supposedly the FAA has approved at least one exemption for an amphiban and may extend that to all amphibians. Otherwise, someone needs to work on designs for retractable floats... -- FF |
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IIRC (Ron, back me up on this?) dual-position gear are permitted for
amphibian LSAs. You don't need a case-by-case exemption. wrote: Da Monk wrote: ... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/ Is that guy landing that thing "wheels up" on the grass or did he retract them that early in the takeoff? Retractable landing gear are not permitted on Light Sport Aircraft. Supposedly the FAA has approved at least one exemption for an amphiban and may extend that to all amphibians. Otherwise, someone needs to work on designs for retractable floats... -- FF |
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![]() CB wrote: IIRC (Ron, back me up on this?) dual-position gear are permitted for amphibian LSAs. You don't need a case-by-case exemption. wrote: Da Monk wrote: ... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/ Is that guy landing that thing "wheels up" on the grass or did he retract them that early in the takeoff? Retractable landing gear are not permitted on Light Sport Aircraft. Supposedly the FAA has approved at least one exemption for an amphiban and may extend that to all amphibians. Otherwise, someone needs to work on designs for retractable floats... Another point of contention was the distinction between retractible and in-flight repositionable gear. -- FF |
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But in the wisdom of a government career employee, they
can't be changed in flight, makes it rather hard to take-off on the water with the wheels down so you can land on terra firma. "CB" wrote in message oups.com... | IIRC (Ron, back me up on this?) dual-position gear are permitted for | amphibian LSAs. You don't need a case-by-case exemption. | | wrote: | Da Monk wrote: | ... | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/ | | Is that guy landing that thing "wheels up" on the grass or did he | retract them that early in the takeoff? | | | Retractable landing gear are not permitted on Light Sport Aircraft. | | Supposedly the FAA has approved at least one exemption for | an amphiban and may extend that to all amphibians. | | Otherwise, someone needs to work on designs for retractable | floats... | | -- | | FF | |
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:Rozxg.84176$ZW3.80192@dukeread04... But in the wisdom of a government career employee, they can't be changed in flight, makes it rather hard to take-off on the water with the wheels down so you can land on terra firma. Given the risk of landing gear down on the water, I think this is an example of where the FAA got it right. You decide before the flight whether you are doing a seaplane flight or a land flight. The whole point of LSA is to allow greatly reduced training costs and airplane certification costs without reducing safety. Effectively creating a limited seaplane rating does this. Pete |
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But once you're on land, you can't retract the wheels to
land on water. And if you're on water you can take-off and land on terra firma. Unless a belly landing is expected and then put the wheels down. Of course, I plan to win the lottery and buy a dozen or so LSA, for different uses. I'll have a Cub type on wheels, another on straight floats, one with steam gauges and another with a glass cockpit. Then I'll have one that cruises at the top speed limit for day trips of 500 miles one-way. And I'll hire some young pilot and get him a type rating in a Beechjet, he'll be my medical. -- James H. Macklin ATP,CFI,A&P "Peter Duniho" wrote in message ... | "Jim Macklin" wrote in message | news:Rozxg.84176$ZW3.80192@dukeread04... | But in the wisdom of a government career employee, they | can't be changed in flight, makes it rather hard to take-off | on the water with the wheels down so you can land on terra | firma. | | Given the risk of landing gear down on the water, I think this is an example | of where the FAA got it right. You decide before the flight whether you are | doing a seaplane flight or a land flight. | | The whole point of LSA is to allow greatly reduced training costs and | airplane certification costs without reducing safety. Effectively creating | a limited seaplane rating does this. | | Pete | | |
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:ALzxg.84177$ZW3.19576@dukeread04... But once you're on land, you can't retract the wheels to land on water. And if you're on water you can take-off and land on terra firma. Yes, I know. What's your point? The LSA area has many restrictions. This is one of them. As with the other restrictions, it simplifies a certain area of aviation, removing one of the most significant risks from seaplane operations. Would you have preferred they simply didn't allow water flying under LSA at all? Because that's the only other option that would have been consistent with the "low training, cheap certification, acceptable safety" goals of LSA. Pete |
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Then why did they approve of amphibians?
"Peter Duniho" wrote in message ... | "Jim Macklin" wrote in message | news:ALzxg.84177$ZW3.19576@dukeread04... | But once you're on land, you can't retract the wheels to | land on water. And if you're on water you can take-off and | land on terra firma. | | Yes, I know. What's your point? The LSA area has many restrictions. This | is one of them. As with the other restrictions, it simplifies a certain | area of aviation, removing one of the most significant risks from seaplane | operations. | | Would you have preferred they simply didn't allow water flying under LSA at | all? Because that's the only other option that would have been consistent | with the "low training, cheap certification, acceptable safety" goals of | LSA. | | Pete | | |
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