Weight-based User Fee Might Incentivize Smaller Planes

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:04:14 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
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User fees will kill aviation.

According to the document, they will provide the FAA with the fiscal
autonomy necessary to prevent implementing "the world's most perfect
system from 1956."

What do you suggest be done to prepare for the coming deluge of ATC
operations in the face of 50% of the ATC workforce retiring by 2011?

Free flight, use GPS and allow IFR over most areas without
ATC. Keep the public happy with ATC from then ground up
around air carriers [class B and C] and above FL 250. Use
electronic CAS in aircraft.

We did better during the 1981 controllers strike with a
bigger reduction than that and we didn't have modern
electronics. The FAA and controllers union are trying to
cover their jobs.



"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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| On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:04:14 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
| wrote in
| BKUyg.84612$ZW3.13139@dukeread04::
|
| User fees will kill aviation.
|
| According to the document, they will provide the FAA with
the fiscal
| autonomy necessary to prevent implementing "the world's
most perfect
| system from 1956."
|
| What do you suggest be done to prepare for the coming
deluge of ATC
| operations in the face of 50% of the ATC workforce
retiring by 2011?
|
|

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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What do you suggest be done to prepare for the coming deluge of ATC
operations in the face of 50% of the ATC workforce retiring by 2011?

In what way does the projected ATC demand relate to the funding model? Or,
put another way, in answer to your question: whatever you think might be
done to prepare for projected demand under the user fees funding model, you
do the same thing, only you pay for it through the existing funding model.

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:48:22 -0700, "Peter Duniho"
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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What do you suggest be done to prepare for the coming deluge of ATC
operations in the face of 50% of the ATC workforce retiring by 2011?

In what way does the projected ATC demand relate to the funding model?

That's a good question. I'll bet you won't find the answer he
http://www.gao.gov/htext/d05333sp.html

Or, put another way, in answer to your question: whatever you think might be
done to prepare for projected demand under the user fees funding model, you
do the same thing, only you pay for it through the existing funding model.

Well, that's the point. The FAA has a history of inability to
innovate ATC, so the panel is advocating privatization to inject
innovative technical solutions into the system.

Please at least skim the document. It's worth the insight it provides
into the airlines' user fee argument.

In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

User fees will kill aviation.

According to the document, they will provide the FAA with the fiscal
autonomy necessary to prevent implementing "the world's most perfect
system from 1956."

according to the document, decisions will not be made based
on politics. If anyone believes that, I've got some land for them....

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:41:17 -0400, Bob Noel
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In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

User fees will kill aviation.

According to the document, they will provide the FAA with the fiscal
autonomy necessary to prevent implementing "the world's most perfect
system from 1956."

according to the document, decisions will not be made based
on politics.

I believe the document suggests, that wresting fiscal control from
Congress will result in FAA funding encountering less impact from
political considerations. Of course, internal FAA politics are
another matter....

Congress is our only tool to keep the FAA from spending too
much. We get to elect new Congressmen every two years and
we know who they are. The fact that we don't is just an
example of how foolish the voters are, after being
brainwashed in government run public schools.

But who at the FAA at you know who control the purse?



"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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| On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:41:17 -0400, Bob Noel
| wrote in
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| In article ,
| Larry Dighera wrote:
|
| User fees will kill aviation.
|
| According to the document, they will provide the FAA
with the fiscal
| autonomy necessary to prevent implementing "the world's
most perfect
| system from 1956."
|
| according to the document, decisions will not be made
based
| on politics.
|
| I believe the document suggests, that wresting fiscal
control from
| Congress will result in FAA funding encountering less
impact from
| political considerations. Of course, internal FAA
politics are
| another matter....

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 08:38:02 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote in
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But who at the FAA at you know who control the purse?

Say again? I don't "know who."