Weight-based User Fee Might Incentivize Smaller Planes

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 02:49:14 GMT, Jose
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Seriously, skim the document, and just read the interesting parts;
don't neglect the appendices. It's easy to get a feel for who is
trying to get hold of the government's purse strings without
congressional oversight. http://www.gao.gov/htext/d05333sp.html


The thing that kills the normal give and take of free economics is a
middleman who calls the shots.

There are at lease multiple providers of health care.

The administration has twisted reality to the point of saying the
government is free to abnegate its control of our nation's navigable
airspace by declaring ATC to be "inherently commercial."

Under President Clinton, air traffic services were defined as
"inherently governmental," meaning that they could not be provided
by the private sector. In June 2002, President Bush issued
Executive Order 13264, which revised that definition and opened
the way for FAA to contract with private companies for services on
a test basis, as directed by OMB Circular A-76.

The performance-based Air Traffic Organization (ATO) was created
in February 2004 to improve the management of the modernization
effort.

In February 2004, FAA merged its Office of Air Traffic Services,
Office of Research and Acquisitions, and Free Flight Program
Office to create the ATO.


I wonder how the USAF feels about user fees?

In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

I wonder how the USAF feels about user fees?

Given that the USAF (and Navy and Army) provides some ATC services
in the NAS, I anticipate that the FAA will be told to consider it a wash.
To put it another way, ain't no way the DoD will take it out of hide.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

ATC exists because it is a military service, it is just
available to the few thousand airline aircraft and in most
cases it is forced upon general aviation.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"Bob Noel" wrote in
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| In article ,
| Larry Dighera wrote:
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| I wonder how the USAF feels about user fees?
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| Given that the USAF (and Navy and Army) provides some ATC
services
| in the NAS, I anticipate that the FAA will be told to
consider it a wash.
| To put it another way, ain't no way the DoD will take it
out of hide.
|
| --
| Bob Noel
| Looking for a sig the
| lawyers will hate
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message news:Gq1zg.84634$ZW3.44653@dukeread04...
: ATC exists because it is a military service, it is just
: available to the few thousand airline aircraft and in most
: cases it is forced upon general aviation.
:
:
: --
: James H. Macklin
: ATP,CFI,A&P
:

A bit like NASA and the space shuttle...

The Air Force radar is aimed out over the oceans, the FAA
radar is used to detect and vector traffic within the
boarders. If there is a national emergency [say nuclear
war] the FAA centers will stay in operation for the military
and all other airplanes will be grounded. The
communications system was built to do this and survive a
nuke attack. To justify the costs, it was used to control
more and more general aviation aircraft by the simple tool,
restrict more airspace to aircraft that don't participate.

It isn't all bad or a waste, but a lot of the expense of
owning an airplane is transponders, ELTs [a Congressman's
plane was lost in Colorado and Congress passed a law, not
the FAA], positive control [Class A and B], encoders above
10,000, everything is small potatoes to the government, but
it costs a lot of money to comply with all the rules and
then to maintain the equipment.


".Blueskies." wrote in
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| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message news:Gq1zg.84634$ZW3.44653@dukeread04...
| : ATC exists because it is a military service, it is just
| : available to the few thousand airline aircraft and in
most
| : cases it is forced upon general aviation.
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| :
| : --
| : James H. Macklin
| : ATP,CFI,A&P
| :
|
| A bit like NASA and the space shuttle...
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In article 0Z2zg.84638$ZW3.70789@dukeread04,
"Jim Macklin" wrote:

The Air Force radar is aimed out over the oceans,

That's the long range air defense radars.

The USAF operates a number of RAPCONs with terminal
radars


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--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

True, generally in areas not served by airlines at the time
the facility was built. Military radar is mostly used for
continental defense, with some ATC functions, as you fly
through their airspace, FAA TC will hand you off.

But the entire FAA ATC system is part of the national
defense, just as the Interstate Highway system was created
by Ike as the National Defense Highway System.



"Bob Noel" wrote in
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| In article 0Z2zg.84638$ZW3.70789@dukeread04,
| "Jim Macklin"
wrote:
|
| The Air Force radar is aimed out over the oceans,
|
| That's the long range air defense radars.
|
| The USAF operates a number of RAPCONs with terminal
| radars
|
|
| |
|
| --
| Bob Noel
| Looking for a sig the
| lawyers will hate
|