Weight-based User Fee Might Incentivize Smaller Planes

In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

User fees will kill aviation.

According to the document, they will provide the FAA with the fiscal
autonomy necessary to prevent implementing "the world's most perfect
system from 1956."

according to the document, decisions will not be made based
on politics. If anyone believes that, I've got some land for them....

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

I wonder how the USAF feels about user fees?

Given that the USAF (and Navy and Army) provides some ATC services
in the NAS, I anticipate that the FAA will be told to consider it a wash.
To put it another way, ain't no way the DoD will take it out of hide.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

ATC exists because it is a military service, it is just
available to the few thousand airline aircraft and in most
cases it is forced upon general aviation.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"Bob Noel" wrote in
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| In article ,
| Larry Dighera wrote:
|
| I wonder how the USAF feels about user fees?
|
| Given that the USAF (and Navy and Army) provides some ATC
services
| in the NAS, I anticipate that the FAA will be told to
consider it a wash.
| To put it another way, ain't no way the DoD will take it
out of hide.
|
| --
| Bob Noel
| Looking for a sig the
| lawyers will hate
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message news:Gq1zg.84634$ZW3.44653@dukeread04...
: ATC exists because it is a military service, it is just
: available to the few thousand airline aircraft and in most
: cases it is forced upon general aviation.
:
:
: --
: James H. Macklin
: ATP,CFI,A&P
:

A bit like NASA and the space shuttle...

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:41:17 -0400, Bob Noel
wrote in
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In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

User fees will kill aviation.

According to the document, they will provide the FAA with the fiscal
autonomy necessary to prevent implementing "the world's most perfect
system from 1956."

according to the document, decisions will not be made based
on politics.

I believe the document suggests, that wresting fiscal control from
Congress will result in FAA funding encountering less impact from
political considerations. Of course, internal FAA politics are
another matter....

The Air Force radar is aimed out over the oceans, the FAA
radar is used to detect and vector traffic within the
boarders. If there is a national emergency [say nuclear
war] the FAA centers will stay in operation for the military
and all other airplanes will be grounded. The
communications system was built to do this and survive a
nuke attack. To justify the costs, it was used to control
more and more general aviation aircraft by the simple tool,
restrict more airspace to aircraft that don't participate.

It isn't all bad or a waste, but a lot of the expense of
owning an airplane is transponders, ELTs [a Congressman's
plane was lost in Colorado and Congress passed a law, not
the FAA], positive control [Class A and B], encoders above
10,000, everything is small potatoes to the government, but
it costs a lot of money to comply with all the rules and
then to maintain the equipment.


".Blueskies." wrote in
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| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message news:Gq1zg.84634$ZW3.44653@dukeread04...
| : ATC exists because it is a military service, it is just
| : available to the few thousand airline aircraft and in
most
| : cases it is forced upon general aviation.
| :
| :
| : --
| : James H. Macklin
| : ATP,CFI,A&P
| :
|
| A bit like NASA and the space shuttle...
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|

Congress is our only tool to keep the FAA from spending too
much. We get to elect new Congressmen every two years and
we know who they are. The fact that we don't is just an
example of how foolish the voters are, after being
brainwashed in government run public schools.

But who at the FAA at you know who control the purse?



"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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| On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:41:17 -0400, Bob Noel
| wrote in
|
::
|
| In article ,
| Larry Dighera wrote:
|
| User fees will kill aviation.
|
| According to the document, they will provide the FAA
with the fiscal
| autonomy necessary to prevent implementing "the world's
most perfect
| system from 1956."
|
| according to the document, decisions will not be made
based
| on politics.
|
| I believe the document suggests, that wresting fiscal
control from
| Congress will result in FAA funding encountering less
impact from
| political considerations. Of course, internal FAA
politics are
| another matter....

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 08:38:02 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote in
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But who at the FAA at you know who control the purse?

Say again? I don't "know who."

Just what problem will User Fees solve? I.e. what's broke now that
only User Fees can fix?

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:56:55 -0700, Bob Fry
wrote in ::

Just what problem will User Fees solve? I.e. what's broke now that
only User Fees can fix?


Here's what the "experts" have to say:


http://www.gao.gov/htext/d05333sp.html

National Airspace System:

Experts' Views on Improving the U.S. Air Traffic Control
Modernization Program

April 13, 2005.