Making the OSH Arrival Safer

Dave Stadt wrote:
"almostthere" wrote in message
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I've never been to OSH and am intending to go there next year. OSH
controllers, be advised that if I feel that the approach is unsafe and you
don't honor my "unable" then its 7700 on the com and xponder and to hell
with your convenience. I'll let my AOPA legal plan take care of the
details.

You really need to consider not attending OSH.

so just because it's OSH, people should throw away all normal rules?
OSH shouldn't be any different than flying into anywhere else.

One more reason why I have zero desire to ever go.

so just because it's OSH, people should throw away all normal rules?
OSH shouldn't be any different than flying into anywhere else.

It's a matter of degree.

One more reason why I have zero desire to ever go.

Too bad -- it's the most wonderful place on earth, for 8 days...

(And, interestingly, it's the one week of the year when we fly the
LEAST.)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Emily" wrote in message
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Dave Stadt wrote:
"almostthere" wrote in message
...
I've never been to OSH and am intending to go there next year. OSH
controllers, be advised that if I feel that the approach is unsafe and
you
don't honor my "unable" then its 7700 on the com and xponder and to hell
with your convenience. I'll let my AOPA legal plan take care of the
details.

You really need to consider not attending OSH.

so just because it's OSH, people should throw away all normal rules?

Normal rules are not the norm at OSH but that doesn't mean the modified
rules are dangerous IF you know how to fly your airplane and can follow
simple instructions.

OSH shouldn't be any different than flying into anywhere else.

As the busiest airport in the world it is very different. If you can't
handle having traffic within several hundred yards you should not fly in.

One more reason why I have zero desire to ever go.

Too bad as it is an experience you will find nowhere else.

Dave Stadt wrote:
"Emily" wrote in message
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Dave Stadt wrote:
"almostthere" wrote in message
...
I've never been to OSH and am intending to go there next year. OSH
controllers, be advised that if I feel that the approach is unsafe and
you
don't honor my "unable" then its 7700 on the com and xponder and to hell
with your convenience. I'll let my AOPA legal plan take care of the
details.
You really need to consider not attending OSH.
so just because it's OSH, people should throw away all normal rules?

Normal rules are not the norm at OSH but that doesn't mean the modified
rules are dangerous IF you know how to fly your airplane and can follow
simple instructions.

OSH shouldn't be any different than flying into anywhere else.

As the busiest airport in the world it is very different. If you can't
handle having traffic within several hundred yards you should not fly in.

Most busy airports don't have low time pilots in all sorts of aircraft
flying into them.

"Emily" wrote in message
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Dave Stadt wrote:
"Emily" wrote in message
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Dave Stadt wrote:
"almostthere" wrote in message
...
I've never been to OSH and am intending to go there next year. OSH
controllers, be advised that if I feel that the approach is unsafe and
you
don't honor my "unable" then its 7700 on the com and xponder and to
hell
with your convenience. I'll let my AOPA legal plan take care of the
details.
You really need to consider not attending OSH.
so just because it's OSH, people should throw away all normal rules?

Normal rules are not the norm at OSH but that doesn't mean the modified
rules are dangerous IF you know how to fly your airplane and can follow
simple instructions.

OSH shouldn't be any different than flying into anywhere else.

As the busiest airport in the world it is very different. If you can't
handle having traffic within several hundred yards you should not fly in.

Most busy airports don't have low time pilots in all sorts of aircraft
flying into them.

I'll repeat for you.....If you can't handle having traffic within several
hundred yards you should not fly in.

Emily,

so just because it's OSH, people should throw away all normal rules?


No. But the OP shows a little inflexibility that might not be
appropriate for OSH.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

so just because it's OSH, people should throw away all normal rules?


Yes.
The FAA has specific waivers for seperation that apply only to OSH. Do
you think its normal policy to have 3 airplanes landing simultaneously
on the same runway (numbers, green dot, orange dot)?
This is not normal behavior. The FAA treats it differently, and so
should you.
Be prepared.
Read the NOTAM.
Be fat on gas.
Know how to fly your airplane in all sorts of configurations and
speeds.
Be prepared.
Read the Notam.

Despite all the discussion, flying in is an experience that is well
worth it, and I truly believe that.

-Ryan Wubben

Despite all the discussion, flying in is an experience that is well
worth it, and I truly believe that.

Good point, Ryan -- this cannot be be stressed too much.

Flying into OSH should be every pilot's goal. In my opinion, until
you've been to Oshkosh, as a pilot, in your own plane, you have missed
one of the truly great experiences in life.

All this talk about making the OSH arrival safer is healthy, and needs
to be quietly discussed amongst thoughtful pilots -- but this should
not in any way dissuade one from flying in. It's the trip of a
lifetime, and I've been blessed to be able to do it multiple times.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 07:27:21 -0500, Emily
wrote:
so just because it's OSH, people should throw away all normal rules?
OSH shouldn't be any different than flying into anywhere else.

One more reason why I have zero desire to ever go.

Flying into OSH is one of those things that as a pilot you have to do
at least *once*... I've landed there 4 times over 2 years... I don't
know if I'll ever end up going up there again, but it's not because of
the traffic procedures...