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Missing flight plans
Twice in 2 days I've filed VFR flight plans only to have FSS unable to
find them when I called on radio after takeoff. One was filed through Duats at 9PM for noon next day (and left at noon). The other was filed with a briefer at Terre Haute at 10PM for 8AM next day (and left on time). In both cases I had to re-file over the radio. |
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I thought DUATS VFR flight plans were never available to FSS, they have
to open them blind. -Robert Paul kgyy wrote: Twice in 2 days I've filed VFR flight plans only to have FSS unable to find them when I called on radio after takeoff. One was filed through Duats at 9PM for noon next day (and left at noon). The other was filed with a briefer at Terre Haute at 10PM for 8AM next day (and left on time). In both cases I had to re-file over the radio. |
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They can activate or cancel them but cannot amend them.
Mike "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message oups.com... I thought DUATS VFR flight plans were never available to FSS, they have to open them blind. -Robert Paul kgyy wrote: Twice in 2 days I've filed VFR flight plans only to have FSS unable to find them when I called on radio after takeoff. One was filed through Duats at 9PM for noon next day (and left at noon). The other was filed with a briefer at Terre Haute at 10PM for 8AM next day (and left on time). In both cases I had to re-file over the radio. |
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On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:34:13 -0700, Paul kgyy wrote:
Twice in 2 days I've filed VFR flight plans only to have FSS unable to find them when I called on radio after takeoff. One was filed through Duats at 9PM for noon next day (and left at noon). The other was filed with a briefer at Terre Haute at 10PM for 8AM next day (and left on time). In both cases I had to re-file over the radio. I had a flight plan magically open on me. I had filed three flight plans, one for each leg of my trip, and had opened and closed two of them. I couldn't raise FSS on my return leg (flight plan #3) and so was not able to open it. Shortly after landing I got a call on my cell phone asking if I had made it to my destination and to inform me I had failed to close my flight plan from the return trip home. None of us understood how that happened but the guy on the other end wasn't too worried about it. Greg |
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You said that you couldn't raise FSS so I assume that you tried. FSS
probably heard your radio calls even though you never heard their response. They may have opened your flight plan as a default - or maybe your initial radio calls included the request. -- ------------------------------- Travis Lake N3094P PWK "Greg Copeland" wrote in message news On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:34:13 -0700, Paul kgyy wrote: Twice in 2 days I've filed VFR flight plans only to have FSS unable to find them when I called on radio after takeoff. One was filed through Duats at 9PM for noon next day (and left at noon). The other was filed with a briefer at Terre Haute at 10PM for 8AM next day (and left on time). In both cases I had to re-file over the radio. I had a flight plan magically open on me. I had filed three flight plans, one for each leg of my trip, and had opened and closed two of them. I couldn't raise FSS on my return leg (flight plan #3) and so was not able to open it. Shortly after landing I got a call on my cell phone asking if I had made it to my destination and to inform me I had failed to close my flight plan from the return trip home. None of us understood how that happened but the guy on the other end wasn't too worried about it. Greg |
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Paul kgyy wrote:
Twice in 2 days I've filed VFR flight plans only to have FSS unable to find them when I called on radio after takeoff. One was filed through Duats at 9PM for noon next day (and left at noon). The other was filed with a briefer at Terre Haute at 10PM for 8AM next day (and left on time). In both cases I had to re-file over the radio. I remember filing a flight plan and hopping in the plane two hours later. Ground let me sit there for fifteen minutes while they contacted center, came back on, told me to get out and call FSS again. Repeated the process once more before I gave up and left VFR and filed in the air (yeah, for some reason I REALLY wanted to be IFR, can't remember why) (this was Terre Haute as well, for those keeping track). |
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There is an online method to post problems at the Lockheed Martin Web site.
I posted a problem on Monday after getting advice from this forum and today I had a response via email from the station manager, identifying the problem and asking me to try it again. Time to voice that complaint. http://www.afss.com/feedback/ It seems to be working for me. BT "Paul kgyy" wrote in message ups.com... Twice in 2 days I've filed VFR flight plans only to have FSS unable to find them when I called on radio after takeoff. One was filed through Duats at 9PM for noon next day (and left at noon). The other was filed with a briefer at Terre Haute at 10PM for 8AM next day (and left on time). In both cases I had to re-file over the radio. |
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"Emily" wrote in message ... Paul kgyy wrote: Twice in 2 days I've filed VFR flight plans only to have FSS unable to find them when I called on radio after takeoff. One was filed through Duats at 9PM for noon next day (and left at noon). The other was filed with a briefer at Terre Haute at 10PM for 8AM next day (and left on time). In both cases I had to re-file over the radio. I remember filing a flight plan and hopping in the plane two hours later. Ground let me sit there for fifteen minutes while they contacted center, came back on, told me to get out and call FSS again. Repeated the process once more before I gave up and left VFR and filed in the air (yeah, for some reason I REALLY wanted to be IFR, can't remember why) (this was Terre Haute as well, for those keeping track). Never had any trouble with Terre Haute. Cleveland dropped the ball once. |
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"Wizard of Draws" wrote in message news:C0F6CE43.89355%jeffbREMOVETHIS@REMOVEALSOwiza rdofdraws.com... Some time ago on a cross-country that took me near, not into, Chattanooga's airspace, I notified them where I was as a courtesy. They gave me a code to squawk. After I was well clear of their airspace, they told me to resume own navigation. Fat, dumb and happy, I squawked 1200 and went on to land at my home base. After I hanging out a bit, the airport manager came up to me and chewed me out for not closing my flight plan. I guess Chattanooga opened one for me. You were on a cross-country without a flight plan? Michelle S. |
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