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Old August 3rd 06, 01:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
Kyler Laird
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"Denny" writes:

You were on a cross-country without a flight plan?


He was ?
Oh mi gawd, doesn't he know that will cause your engine to stall and
then you die !!!!


And after you die there will be an even *longer* delay before anyone
comes looking for your wreckage (assuming that you didn't have Following
and your ELT didn't function properly and no one was expecting to hear
from you).

Please, people, think of the aging GA fleet. If people go flying around
without flight plans we're going to lose a lot of parts that are
valuable to those of us flying old planes.

--kyler
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Old August 3rd 06, 05:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
Jim Burns[_1_]
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"Kyler Laird" wrote in message
...
Please, people, think of the aging GA fleet. If people go flying around
without flight plans we're going to lose a lot of parts that are
valuable to those of us flying old planes.

--kyler


Hey Kyler... this will hit home. We just finished the annual on our Aztec.
There is a fellow based at the airport where we had the work done that has
trashed 3... yes THREE Aztec's in less than 6 months. Runway overrun taking
out the gear and nose, groundlooped the second Aztec in a
crosswind/crossrunway/into the ditch maneuver taking out the gear, then hit
a deer with the third but after it was fixed lit the left engine on fire.

Talk about being hard on the used parts inventory!

Jim


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Old August 3rd 06, 06:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
Mark Hansen
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Default Missing flight plans

On 08/03/06 09:51, Jim Burns wrote:
"Kyler Laird" wrote in message
...
Please, people, think of the aging GA fleet. If people go flying around
without flight plans we're going to lose a lot of parts that are
valuable to those of us flying old planes.

--kyler


Hey Kyler... this will hit home. We just finished the annual on our Aztec.
There is a fellow based at the airport where we had the work done that has
trashed 3... yes THREE Aztec's in less than 6 months. Runway overrun taking
out the gear and nose, groundlooped the second Aztec in a
crosswind/crossrunway/into the ditch maneuver taking out the gear, then hit
a deer with the third but after it was fixed lit the left engine on fire.

Talk about being hard on the used parts inventory!

Jim



I wonder what that does to his insurance rates.


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Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA
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Old August 3rd 06, 07:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
Jim Burns[_1_]
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My understanding is he filed a claim on the first airplane but not on #2 or
#3. I actually have the same agent as he does. I saw the agent at OSH and
inquired about our insurance which is due this month (it went down 6%). I
didn't have the guts to ask about the other pilot's situation.
Jim


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Old August 4th 06, 01:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
Kyler Laird
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Default Missing flight plans

"Jim Burns" writes:

Hey Kyler... this will hit home. We just finished the annual on our Aztec.
There is a fellow based at the airport where we had the work done that has
trashed 3... yes THREE Aztec's in less than 6 months. Runway overrun taking
out the gear and nose, groundlooped the second Aztec in a
crosswind/crossrunway/into the ditch maneuver taking out the gear, then hit
a deer with the third but after it was fixed lit the left engine on fire.


How'd he fire up the engine? Was it carburated?

Talk about being hard on the used parts inventory!


It sounds like he's *supplying* the used parts inventory. I assume
the planes were salvaged.

I'm still grousing about the liquidation of Earle Aircraft. For years
I've depended on them for parts and I recently learned that they had an
auction where complete fuselages (with glass) and wings were going for
$50 to be scrapped. Ug.

--kyler
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Old August 4th 06, 05:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
Jim Burns[_1_]
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I really don't know how he lit up the left engine. There isn't much damage
to anything ahead of the accessory case, but everything between the firewall
and the rear case is burned to a crisp. Could have been a backfire though
the throttle body into the air cleaner I guess.

I was never able to buy anything from Earle but I've talked with them since
the auction, they still have several things for sale, including the E nose
STC, forms, and light & tail spring kits to complete several noses.
$10,000. Not a bad deal if you have the time, talent, and ability to layup
fiberglass and the need for at least 2 noses. I think Diamond-Aire is
getting about $6000 per nose for them now. They've also got the E tail with
the coffin door available, but that sounds like toooo much work!

Thank God that ole Grover Matthews is still going strong. But prices are
through the roof. Be careful with your nose gear, they're going for over
$6k and mains going for $3k.

Jim


"Kyler Laird" wrote in message
...
"Jim Burns" writes:

Hey Kyler... this will hit home. We just finished the annual on our

Aztec.
There is a fellow based at the airport where we had the work done that

has
trashed 3... yes THREE Aztec's in less than 6 months. Runway overrun

taking
out the gear and nose, groundlooped the second Aztec in a
crosswind/crossrunway/into the ditch maneuver taking out the gear, then

hit
a deer with the third but after it was fixed lit the left engine on fire.


How'd he fire up the engine? Was it carburated?

Talk about being hard on the used parts inventory!


It sounds like he's *supplying* the used parts inventory. I assume
the planes were salvaged.

I'm still grousing about the liquidation of Earle Aircraft. For years
I've depended on them for parts and I recently learned that they had an
auction where complete fuselages (with glass) and wings were going for
$50 to be scrapped. Ug.

--kyler



 




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