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RST Engineering wrote:
I beg to differ. I am a product of CSU-San Diego and teach at Sierra Community College in Rocklin and Grass Valley. The smart ones go to the CCS to get their lower division classes at $24 a semester unit and, upon graduation with a B average, a Oh, so smart ones don't just hop right into a university out of high school? That's a bizarre way of thinking, but if it makes the community college people feel better, it's ok, I guess. |
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On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:43:57 -0500, Emily
wrote: RST Engineering wrote: I beg to differ. I am a product of CSU-San Diego and teach at Sierra Community College in Rocklin and Grass Valley. The smart ones go to the CCS to get their lower division classes at $24 a semester unit and, upon graduation with a B average, a Oh, so smart ones don't just hop right into a university out of high school? That's a bizarre way of thinking, but if it makes the community college people feel better, it's ok, I guess. Well, either way, you can graduate with a degree from UC Berkeley, but one way you saved $40,000. I think that's what Jim meant by "smarter." Don |
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Don Tuite wrote:
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:43:57 -0500, Emily wrote: RST Engineering wrote: I beg to differ. I am a product of CSU-San Diego and teach at Sierra Community College in Rocklin and Grass Valley. The smart ones go to the CCS to get their lower division classes at $24 a semester unit and, upon graduation with a B average, a Oh, so smart ones don't just hop right into a university out of high school? That's a bizarre way of thinking, but if it makes the community college people feel better, it's ok, I guess. Well, either way, you can graduate with a degree from UC Berkeley, but one way you saved $40,000. I think that's what Jim meant by "smarter." Who says that a person who went to a university for four years paid for all of it? Personally, I'm glad I never went to a community college. Way too easy to not complete a four year degree. And let's face it, most employers aren't happy with an associates. |
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Emily wrote:
Don Tuite wrote: On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:43:57 -0500, Emily wrote: RST Engineering wrote: I beg to differ. I am a product of CSU-San Diego and teach at Sierra Community College in Rocklin and Grass Valley. The smart ones go to the CCS to get their lower division classes at $24 a semester unit and, upon graduation with a B average, a Oh, so smart ones don't just hop right into a university out of high school? That's a bizarre way of thinking, but if it makes the community college people feel better, it's ok, I guess. Well, either way, you can graduate with a degree from UC Berkeley, but one way you saved $40,000. I think that's what Jim meant by "smarter." Who says that a person who went to a university for four years paid for all of it? Personally, I'm glad I never went to a community college. Way too easy to not complete a four year degree. And let's face it, most employers aren't happy with an associates. That may be true. People lacking self-motivation probably shouldn't go the community college route. However, those who do are well served by their self-motivation as evidenced by their later performance at the university level. Matt |
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Emily wrote:
RST Engineering wrote: I beg to differ. I am a product of CSU-San Diego and teach at Sierra Community College in Rocklin and Grass Valley. The smart ones go to the CCS to get their lower division classes at $24 a semester unit and, upon graduation with a B average, a Oh, so smart ones don't just hop right into a university out of high school? That's a bizarre way of thinking, but if it makes the community college people feel better, it's ok, I guess. Well, it takes money in addition to smarts to attend the expensive schools. Matt |
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![]() Matt Whiting wrote: Well, it takes money in addition to smarts to attend the expensive schools. Just like the rest of the world. Europe has expensive private schools too. Both the U.S. and Europe have public universities that are excellent and low cost. -Robert |
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote: Well, it takes money in addition to smarts to attend the expensive schools. Just like the rest of the world. Europe has expensive private schools too. Both the U.S. and Europe have public universities that are excellent and low cost. Very few low-cost public universities even come close to the tuition of a community college, at least not in the northeast where I live. Maybe elsewhere, but not here. Matt |
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Why is it bizarre? Take a look at statewide stats and you will find that
folks transferring out of 2 year institutions into 4 year schools do better grade point wise than those going straight into 4 year schools out of high school. Don't get me wrong. I wouldn't trade my 4 years at San Diego State for anything, but when somebody asks me to name the best four teachers I had in college, three of the four come from Grossmost Community College and one from San Diego State. Jim "Emily" wrote in message . .. Oh, so smart ones don't just hop right into a university out of high school? That's a bizarre way of thinking, but if it makes the community college people feel better, it's ok, I guess. |
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RST Engineering wrote:
Why is it bizarre? Take a look at statewide stats and you will find that folks transferring out of 2 year institutions into 4 year schools do better grade point wise than those going straight into 4 year schools out of high school. Don't get me wrong. I wouldn't trade my 4 years at San Diego State for anything, but when somebody asks me to name the best four teachers I had in college, three of the four come from Grossmost Community College and one from San Diego State. Strange. I took a few management classes at the largest community college in the nation a few years ago - just for kicks, because I had too much free time. Both instructors were terrible and nowhere near the caliber I was used to from my college. Not to mention the other students. I was scared I'd fail a drug test from sitting in the same room as them. |
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Emily wrote:
RST Engineering wrote: Why is it bizarre? Take a look at statewide stats and you will find that folks transferring out of 2 year institutions into 4 year schools do better grade point wise than those going straight into 4 year schools out of high school. Don't get me wrong. I wouldn't trade my 4 years at San Diego State for anything, but when somebody asks me to name the best four teachers I had in college, three of the four come from Grossmost Community College and one from San Diego State. Strange. I took a few management classes at the largest community college in the nation a few years ago - just for kicks, because I had too much free time. Both instructors were terrible and nowhere near the caliber I was used to from my college. Not to mention the other students. I was scared I'd fail a drug test from sitting in the same room as them. Large isn't necessarily equal to good. I've attended 7 different schools at last count from one class taken at a community college to some fairly well-respected institutions (Penn State, RIT, Alfred University). The best school I attended was close to a community college than a university - Penn State's Behrend campus. When I was there (25 years ago), they were still primarily a two-year feeder campus for Penn State, even though they did offer a handful of four-year degrees in areas such as accounting. The instructors there were simply outstanding and were focused on teaching rather than research. Matt |
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