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Old August 21st 06, 06:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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The elevator is restricted and can't raise the angle of
attack to the stall. Stall-proof is correct.



"john smith" wrote in message
...
| If there are no pedals, why are there hinges?
|
| they're linked to the ailerons. automatically gives you
just enough.
| designed to be stall-proof. predicted accurately by
wolfgang
| langeweische in stick&rudder.
|
| Don't you mean "spin-proof"?


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Old August 21st 06, 06:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Don Tuite
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On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:02:29 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:

The elevator is restricted and can't raise the angle of
attack to the stall. Stall-proof is correct.

Dive. Yank back the yoke. No stall?
Always wondered about that.

Don

"john smith" wrote in message
...
| If there are no pedals, why are there hinges?
|
| they're linked to the ailerons. automatically gives you
just enough.
| designed to be stall-proof. predicted accurately by
wolfgang
| langeweische in stick&rudder.
|
| Don't you mean "spin-proof"?


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Old August 23rd 06, 12:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kyle Boatright
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"Don Tuite" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:02:29 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:

The elevator is restricted and can't raise the angle of
attack to the stall. Stall-proof is correct.

Dive. Yank back the yoke. No stall?
Always wondered about that.

Don


You can cause a stall using the technique you mention. But, you'll never
accidentally stall one just puttering around. I understand that if you know
what you're doing and are dumb/brave enough to try, you can even barrel roll
one.

KB


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Old August 23rd 06, 01:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
houstondan
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this link should get you to the national air and space museum
description of the ercoupe.


//www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero/aircraft/erco415.htm

dan

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Old August 24th 06, 12:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
.Blueskies.
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"houstondan" wrote in message oups.com...
: this link should get you to the national air and space museum
: description of the ercoupe.
:
:
: //www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero/aircraft/erco415.htm
:
: dan
:

Interesting it says "castoring wheels and the steerable nose wheel could align with the runway on impact." I think they
should re-word it to say something like "main landing gear with lots of castor and the steerable nose wheel would align
the airplane with the runway on touchdown."


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Old August 24th 06, 01:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Moore
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..Blueskies. wrote
Interesting it says "castoring wheels and the steerable nose wheel
could align with the runway on impact."


I think that they speak in error, other, seemingly more authoritative
web sites dealing with the Ercoupe deny that the wheels castor at all.

Bob Moore
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Old August 24th 06, 05:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
houstondan
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dear bob,

very sloppy punctuation in the creation of that run-on sentence.
lose the comma after the word "error", replace the comma with a period.
then, if you're going to create a parenthetical phrase after "other",
you must put another comma after "ercoupe. there; that's much better.

i'm a little curious about which groups you consider "more
authoritative" than the by-god national air and space museum.
"seemingly" to whom??

fair's fair. jus funnin ya.



dan


Bob Moore wrote:
.Blueskies. wrote
Interesting it says "castoring wheels and the steerable nose wheel
could align with the runway on impact."


I think that they speak in error, other, seemingly more authoritative
web sites dealing with the Ercoupe deny that the wheels castor at all.

Bob Moore


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Old August 24th 06, 03:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Fry
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"BS" == Blueskies .Blueskies. writes:

BS Interesting it says "castoring wheels and the steerable nose
BS wheel could align with the runway on impact."

I exchanged several emails with the #*!@&# that wrote that, and he
wouldn't budge on his choice of words, even tho pretty much the entire
Ercoupe community blasted him for it. Coupe drivers can be old coots.
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Old August 24th 06, 05:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Flyingmonk[_1_]
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..Blueskies. wrote:
"houstondan" wrote in message oups.com...
: this link should get you to the national air and space museum
: description of the ercoupe.
:
:
: //www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero/aircraft/erco415.htm
:
: dan
:

Interesting it says "castoring wheels and the steerable nose wheel could align with the runway on impact." I think they
should re-word it to say something like "main landing gear with lots of castor and the steerable nose wheel would align
the airplane with the runway on touchdown."


IMPACT? LOL... Must be one O' them Aviation-phobic types...

Monk

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Old August 23rd 06, 01:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Don Tuite
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 19:46:37 -0400, "Kyle Boatright"
wrote:


"Don Tuite" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:02:29 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:

The elevator is restricted and can't raise the angle of
attack to the stall. Stall-proof is correct.

Dive. Yank back the yoke. No stall?
Always wondered about that.

Don


You can cause a stall using the technique you mention. But, you'll never
accidentally stall one just puttering around. I understand that if you know
what you're doing and are dumb/brave enough to try, you can even barrel roll
one.

But what's it like? Fall out of the sky? Tendency to spin? Just
release backpressure to recover? How much altitiude loss?

In all these years, somebody must have tried it and reported.

Don
 




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