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Orval Fairbairn wrote:
I received this as part of Gary Wiblins' (So. Africa) Aviation Safety email: It is truly chilling! "Mohammad Atta was in my Cockpit Jump-seat**by*Pat Pat? Is that the Pat from "Saturday Night Live"? The story smells like a big pile of male bovine fecal matter to me. |
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Jim Logajan wrote: Orval Fairbairn wrote: I received this as part of Gary Wiblins' (So. Africa) Aviation Safety email: It is truly chilling! "Mohammad Atta was in my Cockpit Jump-seat**by*Pat Pat? Is that the Pat from "Saturday Night Live"? The story smells like a big pile of male bovine fecal matter to me. Hey, guys, I just posted it because I got it from Gary's Aviation Safety Newsletter, and it appeared real enough and chilling enough to pass on (with Gary's permission, of course). The scenario appears credible, but -- who knows? I will say, however, that it is far more credible than all of those "Inside Job" conjectures out there. They don't even have enough evidence to call it a "theory." BTW, an old friend (long retired) used to fly the UAL 93 schedule and shudders to think about what *could* have happened. |
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Sing along with me:
Troll, troll, troll your boat Gently down the net Merrily, merrily, merrily now Your brains are getting wet. |
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Orval Fairbairn wrote:
It is truly chilling! yes, but probably a fake; for instance: US citizen?" *He said no. *I also found that very strange because I know that in order to have an Airline Transport Pilot rating, the rating required to be an airline captain, one has to be a US citizen, and is totally untrue, i.e., the guy who wrote this does not know what he is talking about, --Sylvain |
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Quote: "His name was Mohammad Atta, the leader of the terrorist
hijackers. Atta had boarded my flight from Baltimore to Atlanta on July 26, 2001 wearing an American Airlines first officer uniform. He had the corresponding AA company ID identifying him as a pilot, not to mention the required FAA pilot license and medical certificate that he was required to show me as proof of his aircrew status for access to my jumpseat." Okay, so we've established (according to this guy) that Mohammed Atta looked to be every bit as legitimate as the author. Quote: "There was nothing to indicate, though, that he was anything other than who or what he said he was, because he had the documentation to prove who he was. In retrospect, we now know his uniform was stolen and his documents were forged." So, even though the guy was extremely suspicious and "creepy", the author thought nothing of it, and chose to not question his authenticity. Quote: "I also found myself being scrutinized by TSA screeners more and more everyday when I went to work, and suffered the humiliating indignity of being identified about half the time for body searches in front of the general flying public who looked at the entire process as being ludicrous. "They don't even trust their own pilots!" accompanied by an unbelieving snicker was the usual response. Here I was, a retired USAF officer who had been entrusted to fly nuclear weapons around the world, who had been granted a Top Secret clearance and had been on missions over the course of 21 years in the military that I still can't talk about without fear of prosecution by the DoD, who was being scanned by a flunkie TSA screener looking for any sign of a pen knife or nail file on my person." Uh, so why should the author be upset? He just established that the hijackers posed as legitimate pilots with all the credentials and uniforms and proper certificates! And the part about ridiculing the "TSA Flunkie"...didn't this guy just rant about the 'liberal detractors' who don't take this war seriously? Hmmm...it would seem that he himself is a liberal detractor. I love how the guy justifies his position by claiming he "dodged a bullet". Yep, his opinion is much more valid than anyone else's, because a terrorist sat in his jumpseat, aroused suspicion, and the author did nothing about it...but at least "a higher power" saved him and his friends from that hijacker and killed off all those other people instead. Not enough eye-rolling in the world could properly express my true sentiments. |
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"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
news ![]() The scenario appears credible Did it strike you as credible that the alleged event escaped the attention of all 9/11 investigators for the past five years, but suddenly came to light now via an unverifiable Internet chain-mail laden with a right-wing political message? --Gary |
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Orval Fairbairn wrote:
I received this as part of Gary Wiblins' (So. Africa) Aviation Safety email: It is truly chilling! Chilling and almost certainly fabricated. Matt |
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![]() Matt Whiting wrote: Orval Fairbairn wrote: I received this as part of Gary Wiblins' (So. Africa) Aviation Safety email: It is truly chilling! Chilling and almost certainly fabricated. I loved the bit about how an airline pilot in the US has to have US citizenship.. I have a couple of friends occupying left and right seats who are NOT American by birth or citizenship... |
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![]() Orval Fairbairn wrote: I received this as part of Gary Wiblins' (So. Africa) Aviation Safety email: It is truly chilling! It's truly chilling to see the lengths that some people will go to for a little attention. John Galban=====N4BQ(PA28-180) |
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