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Old September 13th 06, 02:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Emily wrote:

I've been running a 102 degree fever for the past two weeks and have
been so tired I can barely get to work. Finally made a doctor's
appointment (with a new doctor) today, but wasn't planning on getting in
the same day and had taken Tylenol for the fever...so no fever when I
showed up.

Long story short, he ordered some blood work, but told me he thinks that
I am depressed, since I have fatigue with no fever. He said that if the
blood work comes back normal, he's writing it up as depression.

Obviously he's an idiot, since 1) fatigue has so many other causes and
2) I don't have depression, never have. This is just a bogus diagnosis.

My concern is, if he writes this up in my medical records, do I have to
report it to the FAA? I'm really terrified of this.


Yes, you have to report it at your next medical, but I can't remember if
you have to report it right away. I'd call an AME and ask. I think you
also should get a second opinion right away.

Matt
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Old September 13th 06, 02:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Emily[_1_]
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Matt Whiting wrote:
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My concern is, if he writes this up in my medical records, do I have
to report it to the FAA? I'm really terrified of this.


Yes, you have to report it at your next medical


Even though I don't have depression?! 102 degree fever indicates
infection, no depression (which I don't have anyway). How could a
routine appointment for a fever make me lost my medical? This is the
most unfair thing I've ever encountered, just because of some doctor's
incompetence. He's making something up, because he doesn't want to take
the time to find out what's REALLY wrong. I'm sorry, but seeing a
patient for two minutes does not qualify anyone to diagnos
depression...and the fact that I don't have it means a lot.

And to take this farther, how do I keep a doctor from writing all sorts
of bogus things in my records? Fever and fatigue also are symptoms of
AIDS, what if he's written THAT? See what I'm saying?
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Old September 13th 06, 02:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Viperdoc[_1_]
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The true diagnosis of depression is generally made when a patient complains
of a specific set of criteria symptoms. Simply calling someone depressed
because they are fatigued or tired is lazy, irresponsible and poor medicine.

JN, MD
Senior Flight Surgeon (USAF), AME



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Old September 13th 06, 02:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Stubby
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Viperdoc wrote:
The true diagnosis of depression is generally made when a patient complains
of a specific set of criteria symptoms. Simply calling someone depressed
because they are fatigued or tired is lazy, irresponsible and poor medicine.


Is that grounds to have his AME certificate removed? What is the
process? The AME may have problems of his own that need looked at.
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Old September 13th 06, 03:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Emily[_1_]
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Stubby wrote:
Viperdoc wrote:
The true diagnosis of depression is generally made when a patient
complains of a specific set of criteria symptoms. Simply calling
someone depressed because they are fatigued or tired is lazy,
irresponsible and poor medicine.


Is that grounds to have his AME certificate removed? What is the
process? The AME may have problems of his own that need looked at.


This wasn't an AME.
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Old September 13th 06, 05:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mortimer Schnerd, RN[_2_]
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Emily wrote:
Stubby wrote:
Viperdoc wrote:
The true diagnosis of depression is generally made when a patient
complains of a specific set of criteria symptoms. Simply calling
someone depressed because they are fatigued or tired is lazy,
irresponsible and poor medicine.


Is that grounds to have his AME certificate removed? What is the
process? The AME may have problems of his own that need looked at.


This wasn't an AME.



Then what is the problem? Keep this crap to yourself unless you think you've
become unsafe to fly. I've said it befo I have two physicians: my flight
guy and my real doctor. The two have never met.


--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
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Old September 13th 06, 05:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dave Stadt
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"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in message
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Emily wrote:
Stubby wrote:
Viperdoc wrote:
The true diagnosis of depression is generally made when a patient
complains of a specific set of criteria symptoms. Simply calling
someone depressed because they are fatigued or tired is lazy,
irresponsible and poor medicine.

Is that grounds to have his AME certificate removed? What is the
process? The AME may have problems of his own that need looked at.


This wasn't an AME.



Then what is the problem? Keep this crap to yourself unless you think
you've become unsafe to fly. I've said it befo I have two physicians:
my flight guy and my real doctor. The two have never met.


Or she could simply never go back to that doctor.

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Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com



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Old September 13th 06, 01:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gary Drescher
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"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in message
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Emily wrote:
This wasn't an AME.


Then what is the problem? Keep this crap to yourself unless you think
you've become unsafe to fly. I've said it befo I have two physicians:
my flight guy and my real doctor. The two have never met.


The problem is that the FAA's medical form asks you whether you have ever
been diagnosed with certain conditions (including depression), and it is
perjury to answer falsely. The form does not ask whether you consider the
diagnosis correct or whether you consider the diagnosing physician
competent.

--Gary


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Old September 13th 06, 05:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Emily writes:

This wasn't an AME.


Then see a doctor who is. I doubt that she will concur with this
armchair diagnosis of depression. Better yet, find an AME who is also
a psychiatrist, if such exist.

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Old September 13th 06, 06:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter R.
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Emily writes:

This wasn't an AME.


Then see a doctor who is. I doubt that she will concur with this
armchair diagnosis of depression. Better yet, find an AME who is also
a psychiatrist, if such exist.


That is actually very bad advice to those pilots who value their medical
certificate. A real pilot knows not to place the responsibilities of
normal healthcare in the hands of the same doctor who signs one's medical
certificate.

--
Peter
 




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