Which Two Place Club Ship?

You haven't specified any financial constraints, so...
Get a Duo Discus, with a good trailer and solo assembly rig.

We have a small syndicate/club. I assemble the Duo myself
and I'm ready to fly in the time many clubs take to unpack a hangar.
Easy to fly, suitable for primary instruction through advanced XC.

Of course, you're going to spend a bit more money than
some of the other options discussed, but it will retain its
value with very low maintenance costs, and you will never
be dissatisfied with performance or suitability for transition
training. Go fly it in a contest with a more experienced
pilot if you want to learn something (our Duo is featured
in the movie "A Fine Week of Soaring" with Karl Striedieck).

Get it equipped with two parachutes, and an ILEC SN10
varior/flight computer with Garmin GPS-35.

Only issues with club member assembly/disassembly: once
I dinged the gear doors putting it into the trailer, so we bought a
spare set of gear doors so it can be easily field repaired if
it happens again.

For clubs that own a Duo, its first out of the hangar in the
AM for primary training, some XC during the mid-day, and
then back to primary training late afternoon until dusk.

This is not at all crazy or out-of-reach for a small group.
Think seriously about it !

Best Regards, Dave

wrote:
You haven't specified any financial constraints, so...
Get a Duo Discus, with a good trailer and solo assembly rig.

We have a small syndicate/club. I assemble the Duo myself
and I'm ready to fly in the time many clubs take to unpack a hangar.
Easy to fly, suitable for primary instruction through advanced XC.

Of course, you're going to spend a bit more money than
some of the other options discussed, but it will retain its
value with very low maintenance costs, and you will never
be dissatisfied with performance or suitability for transition
training. Go fly it in a contest with a more experienced
pilot if you want to learn something (our Duo is featured
in the movie "A Fine Week of Soaring" with Karl Striedieck).

Get it equipped with two parachutes, and an ILEC SN10
varior/flight computer with Garmin GPS-35.

Only issues with club member assembly/disassembly: once
I dinged the gear doors putting it into the trailer, so we bought a
spare set of gear doors so it can be easily field repaired if
it happens again.

For clubs that own a Duo, its first out of the hangar in the
AM for primary training, some XC during the mid-day, and
then back to primary training late afternoon until dusk.

This is not at all crazy or out-of-reach for a small group.
Think seriously about it !

And you can make a similar argument for the DG-1000. Plus you get
optional short tips for acro training, more effective spoilers, and full
rear seat gear operation (unless you're comparing to Duo X).

Jeremy

Same spoiler effectiveness (unless the Duo spoilers/wheelbrake
are improperly adjusted, which is common). If you're not doing
Acro, and you don't mind asking passenger to operate gear, no
difference (I always fly from back seat). Anyway, I know some
clubs are equally happy with DG-1000 as we are with our Duo !
I think DG rear seat is a tad more comfortable as well. I'll try
fly the DG one of these days...
Best Regards, Dave

Jeremy Zawodny wrote:
wrote:
You haven't specified any financial constraints, so...
Get a Duo Discus, with a good trailer and solo assembly rig.

We have a small syndicate/club. I assemble the Duo myself
and I'm ready to fly in the time many clubs take to unpack a hangar.
Easy to fly, suitable for primary instruction through advanced XC.

Of course, you're going to spend a bit more money than
some of the other options discussed, but it will retain its
value with very low maintenance costs, and you will never
be dissatisfied with performance or suitability for transition
training. Go fly it in a contest with a more experienced
pilot if you want to learn something (our Duo is featured
in the movie "A Fine Week of Soaring" with Karl Striedieck).

Get it equipped with two parachutes, and an ILEC SN10
varior/flight computer with Garmin GPS-35.

Only issues with club member assembly/disassembly: once
I dinged the gear doors putting it into the trailer, so we bought a
spare set of gear doors so it can be easily field repaired if
it happens again.

For clubs that own a Duo, its first out of the hangar in the
AM for primary training, some XC during the mid-day, and
then back to primary training late afternoon until dusk.

This is not at all crazy or out-of-reach for a small group.
Think seriously about it !

And you can make a similar argument for the DG-1000. Plus you get
optional short tips for acro training, more effective spoilers, and full
rear seat gear operation (unless you're comparing to Duo X).

Jeremy

wrote:
Same spoiler effectiveness (unless the Duo spoilers/wheelbrake
are improperly adjusted, which is common). If you're not doing
Acro, and you don't mind asking passenger to operate gear, no
difference (I always fly from back seat). Anyway, I know some
clubs are equally happy with DG-1000 as we are with our Duo !
I think DG rear seat is a tad more comfortable as well. I'll try
fly the DG one of these days...

Heh. I happen to think the back seat is the worst feature of the
DG-1000, at least in terms of comfort. :-)

But, yeah, it's worth flying both. I haven't flown a Duo X yet, but I'd
like to someday.

Jeremy

Hi,

Interesting. I was very fortunate to spent quite a few hours in the back
seat of a DG-1000 this summer and found it very comfortable - and I'm 6' 3"
tall with very long legs. I think it is a lovely glider in every way! Very
easy to fly and impressive performance. My longs legs get a bit cramped in
the front seat on long flights though.

Paul Remde

"Jeremy Zawodny" wrote in message
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wrote:
Same spoiler effectiveness (unless the Duo spoilers/wheelbrake
are improperly adjusted, which is common). If you're not doing
Acro, and you don't mind asking passenger to operate gear, no
difference (I always fly from back seat). Anyway, I know some
clubs are equally happy with DG-1000 as we are with our Duo !
I think DG rear seat is a tad more comfortable as well. I'll try
fly the DG one of these days...

Heh. I happen to think the back seat is the worst feature of the DG-1000,
at least in terms of comfort. :-)

But, yeah, it's worth flying both. I haven't flown a Duo X yet, but I'd
like to someday.

Jeremy

Paul Remde wrote:
Hi,

Interesting. I was very fortunate to spent quite a few hours in the back
seat of a DG-1000 this summer and found it very comfortable - and I'm 6' 3"
tall with very long legs. I think it is a lovely glider in every way! Very
easy to fly and impressive performance. My longs legs get a bit cramped in
the front seat on long flights though.

Don't get me wrong. I love our DG-1000. Our club has a 2nd one on
order. But I just wish the back seat was more comfortable.

I've done a bit of experimenting with towels and cushions, so it's a lot
better now. But there's still tweaking to be done.

Jeremy