Rogue's Gallery Almost Got Me in Trouble

Mike Adams wrote:

It is a good picture if I do say so myself - good Arizona scenery, perfect for television! Jay, do you have
any copyright disclaimers on the website?

The story of the mix-up and the fact that the police and/or news research
crew using Jay's site for the picture were amusing. However, the
underlying incident is not.

Any word about the missing aircraft?

--
Peter

"Peter R." wrote:

The story of the mix-up and the fact that the police and/or news
research crew using Jay's site for the picture were amusing. However,
the underlying incident is not.

I agree.

Any word about the missing aircraft?

Nothing new. The CAP conducted searches a few days ago between here and Sedona, but nothing new
has been announced in the media. We've had good weather all week, so that's not a factor. But even
though the path between Phoenix and Sedona is well-travelled, there's still a lot of open country between
here and there.

Here's an earlier story: http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news...ng0929-CP.html

Mike

Mike Adams wrote:

Nothing new. The CAP conducted searches a few days ago between here and Sedona, but nothing new
has been announced in the media. We've had good weather all week, so that's not a factor. But even
though the path between Phoenix and Sedona is well-travelled, there's still a lot of open country between
here and there.

CAP has been conducting searches every day since the aircraft was
reported missing. According to the news, there were 20 sorties last
Saturday, and 10 (I think) on Sunday. The search is continuing.

writes:

CAP has been conducting searches every day since the aircraft was
reported missing. According to the news, there were 20 sorties last
Saturday, and 10 (I think) on Sunday. The search is continuing.

Just out of curiosity, wouldn't a few good satellite photographs allow
a much wider area to be examined more quickly?

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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writes:

CAP has been conducting searches every day since the aircraft was
reported missing. According to the news, there were 20 sorties last
Saturday, and 10 (I think) on Sunday. The search is continuing.

Just out of curiosity, wouldn't a few good satellite photographs allow
a much wider area to be examined more quickly?

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The fuel value of moving a spy satellite just 1 degree to cover a specific
area would pay for several 100 if not 1000s of CAP missions. Then you have
to have the NRO use the manpower to examine the images. Where the CAP pilots
are volunteers.

Gig 601XL Builder writes:

The fuel value of moving a spy satellite just 1 degree to cover a specific
area would pay for several 100 if not 1000s of CAP missions.

I didn't say anything about moving a satellite, nor did I say anything
about spy satellites. There may have been satellites already covering
the area. Commercial satellites already have enough resolution to
spot wreckage.

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

The fuel value of moving a spy satellite just 1 degree to cover a
specific
area would pay for several 100 if not 1000s of CAP missions.

I didn't say anything about moving a satellite, nor did I say anything
about spy satellites. There may have been satellites already covering
the area. Commercial satellites already have enough resolution to
spot wreckage.


So you think those pictures on Google Earth are real time. Satellites both
commercial and government are in orbits that are designed to cover areas of
interest. To task a satellite to cover a specific area that isn't under its
flight path requires fuel to be used. The chances of any given place on any
given week being covered is low. The exception to this is places where the
government has special interest. I'm sure the Mid East is covered pretty
well about now.

Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

CAP has been conducting searches every day since the aircraft was
reported missing. According to the news, there were 20 sorties last
Saturday, and 10 (I think) on Sunday. The search is continuing.

Just out of curiosity, wouldn't a few good satellite photographs allow
a much wider area to be examined more quickly?

--
Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.


Spy satellites work well when you don't want someone to know you are
watching. ;)

If there are survivors, they can signal a live, low-flying aircraft.
The search crew looks not only straight down, but sideways (Searches
can be parallel lines as close as necessary, though 1-mile spacings are
usual. So we can be looking about 1/2 mile sideways, more or less.)
It's surprising how aircraft tend to slide under trees, etc. and can't
be seen from straight up. Many times, we have to look for "clues",
such as ground damage, burn marks in trees, etc. Unfortunately, many
wrecks aren't recognizable--just scattered aluminum.

With multiple aircraft, we can cover quite a bit of territory
simultaneously. If an aircraft is found, we can circle or otherwise
communicate directly with ground teams to lead them to a site.

Speaking of ground teams, there are quite a few people working a search
who are not in the air. Mission base has people handling information,
planning, communications, logistics, dealing with families and other
officials, etc. Ground team members are also trained in their
functions. They are all volunteers.

A major advantage is that the crews work for free! Actually, we pay
for the privilege since we do spend money training, etc.

In addition, CAP members are qualified to assist in other types of
disasters, as part of the national Incident Command structure. We've
worked floods, hurricanes, whatever; this is either with air capability
or just as food-carrying ground pounders.

Mike Adams wrote:
"Peter R." wrote:

The story of the mix-up and the fact that the police and/or news
research crew using Jay's site for the picture were amusing. However,
the underlying incident is not.

I agree.

Any word about the missing aircraft?

Nothing new. The CAP conducted searches a few days ago between here and Sedona, but nothing new
has been announced in the media. We've had good weather all week, so that's not a factor. But even
though the path between Phoenix and Sedona is well-travelled, there's still a lot of open country between
here and there.

Here's an earlier story: http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news...ng0929-CP.html

Mike


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"Skylune" wrote:

Maybe its listed he

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It's not and I don't see why it would be. It's the airplane owner that's missing. The airplane is just
incidental.

Mike