Landing on a sloping runway with different wind velocities

"Jerry" wrote in message
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I have an 1800 ft grass strip that has a 3% grade. There is a 50 to 75 ft
obstruction off the high end of the runway and no obstructions off the end
of the low end of the runway. Slope and obstruction is more important than
wind. I will not land downwing unless the headwind exceeds 15 knots. The
deceleration uphill and acceleration downhill is more significant than the
usual winds. Below 200 ft on approach, you have to be committed to land.
Unless you have a very high power to weight you cannot do a go around.

Jerry in NC

You get the big brass ones award. I don't have the stomach for a strip
where I have to commit so early.

In a no wind situation, what is your uphill landing roll on your strip
versus a level strip?

Same question for your downhill takeoff roll.

And, what do you fly?

Thanks for the info..

KB

Fly a 1946 BC12-D Taylorcraft. No wind, no slope takeoff and landing is
about 300-400 feet. Stall speed about 35 mph. 10 knot tailwind uphill
estimated landing is 500 ft. Downhill landing 10 knot headwind over
obstacles uses estimated 1000 to 1200 ft of runway. I only takeoff
downhill. Unless you have experience with a slope you will underestimated
the effect of the slope.

On long paved runways, I always land into the wind.

Jerry in NC

"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
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"Jerry" wrote in message
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I have an 1800 ft grass strip that has a 3% grade. There is a 50 to 75 ft
obstruction off the high end of the runway and no obstructions off the end
of the low end of the runway. Slope and obstruction is more important
than wind. I will not land downwing unless the headwind exceeds 15 knots.
The deceleration uphill and acceleration downhill is more significant than
the usual winds. Below 200 ft on approach, you have to be committed to
land. Unless you have a very high power to weight you cannot do a go
around.

Jerry in NC

You get the big brass ones award. I don't have the stomach for a strip
where I have to commit so early.

In a no wind situation, what is your uphill landing roll on your strip
versus a level strip?

Same question for your downhill takeoff roll.

And, what do you fly?

Thanks for the info..

KB

"Jerry" wrote in message
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Fly a 1946 BC12-D Taylorcraft. No wind, no slope takeoff and landing is
about 300-400 feet. Stall speed about 35 mph. 10 knot tailwind uphill
estimated landing is 500 ft. Downhill landing 10 knot headwind over
obstacles uses estimated 1000 to 1200 ft of runway. I only takeoff
downhill. Unless you have experience with a slope you will underestimated
the effect of the slope.

On long paved runways, I always land into the wind.

Jerry in NC

OK, your no slope, no wind takeoff and landing are 300-400'.

What is the downhill, no wind takeoff distance?

What is the uphill, no wind landing distance?

KB

"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
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"Jerry" wrote in message
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Fly a 1946 BC12-D Taylorcraft. No wind, no slope takeoff and landing is
about 300-400 feet. Stall speed about 35 mph. 10 knot tailwind uphill
estimated landing is 500 ft. Downhill landing 10 knot headwind over
obstacles uses estimated 1000 to 1200 ft of runway. I only takeoff
downhill. Unless you have experience with a slope you will
underestimated the effect of the slope.

On long paved runways, I always land into the wind.

Jerry in NC

OK, your no slope, no wind takeoff and landing are 300-400'.

What is the downhill, no wind takeoff distance?

What is the uphill, no wind landing distance?

KB


I don't takeoff uphill.

Downhill, no wind takeoff is estimated 250 feet.

Remember that I have obstacles at the end of the uphill runway and none at
the end of the downwind runway.

Jerry in NC

"Jerry" wrote in message
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"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
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"Jerry" wrote in message
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Fly a 1946 BC12-D Taylorcraft. No wind, no slope takeoff and landing is
about 300-400 feet. Stall speed about 35 mph. 10 knot tailwind uphill
estimated landing is 500 ft. Downhill landing 10 knot headwind over
obstacles uses estimated 1000 to 1200 ft of runway. I only takeoff
downhill. Unless you have experience with a slope you will
underestimated the effect of the slope.

On long paved runways, I always land into the wind.

Jerry in NC

OK, your no slope, no wind takeoff and landing are 300-400'.

What is the downhill, no wind takeoff distance?

What is the uphill, no wind landing distance?

KB


I don't takeoff uphill.

Downhill, no wind takeoff is estimated 250 feet.

Remember that I have obstacles at the end of the uphill runway and none at
the end of the downwind runway.

Jerry in NC

Jerry,

I never asked about uphill takeoff performance.

Again, what is the uphill, no wind landing distance?

Thanks,

KB

"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
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"Jerry" wrote in message
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"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
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"Jerry" wrote in message
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Fly a 1946 BC12-D Taylorcraft. No wind, no slope takeoff and landing
is about 300-400 feet. Stall speed about 35 mph. 10 knot tailwind
uphill estimated landing is 500 ft. Downhill landing 10 knot headwind
over obstacles uses estimated 1000 to 1200 ft of runway. I only
takeoff downhill. Unless you have experience with a slope you will
underestimated the effect of the slope.

On long paved runways, I always land into the wind.

Jerry in NC

OK, your no slope, no wind takeoff and landing are 300-400'.

What is the downhill, no wind takeoff distance?

What is the uphill, no wind landing distance?

KB


I don't takeoff uphill.

Downhill, no wind takeoff is estimated 250 feet.

Remember that I have obstacles at the end of the uphill runway and none
at the end of the downwind runway.

Jerry in NC

Jerry,

I never asked about uphill takeoff performance.

Again, what is the uphill, no wind landing distance?

Thanks,

KB




Sorry that I misunderstood. Estimated uphill no wing landing is 200-300
feet.

My main reason getting involved with this thread is to point out that there
is no single best answer. Choice depends on aircraft, pilot, surface,
obstacles, slopes. In the past, I thought that you should only land into
the wind.

Jerry in NC

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"Jerry" wrote in message
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Fly a 1946 BC12-D Taylorcraft. No wind, no slope takeoff and landing
is about 300-400 feet. Stall speed about 35 mph. 10 knot tailwind
uphill estimated landing is 500 ft. Downhill landing 10 knot headwind
over obstacles uses estimated 1000 to 1200 ft of runway. I only
takeoff downhill. Unless you have experience with a slope you will
underestimated the effect of the slope.

On long paved runways, I always land into the wind.

Jerry in NC

OK, your no slope, no wind takeoff and landing are 300-400'.

What is the downhill, no wind takeoff distance?

What is the uphill, no wind landing distance?

KB


I don't takeoff uphill.

Downhill, no wind takeoff is estimated 250 feet.

Remember that I have obstacles at the end of the uphill runway and none
at the end of the downwind runway.

Jerry in NC

Jerry,

I never asked about uphill takeoff performance.

Again, what is the uphill, no wind landing distance?

Thanks,

KB




Sorry that I misunderstood. Estimated uphill no wing landing is 200-300
feet.

My main reason getting involved with this thread is to point out that
there is no single best answer. Choice depends on aircraft, pilot,
surface, obstacles, slopes. In the past, I thought that you should only
land into the wind.

Jerry in NC

And thanks for your posts. I am/was curious as to how much of an advantage
a sloping runway could be if you could land uphill and depart downhill.
Sounds like at least 25% reduction in required field length.

That mountainside property is looking better by the day. ;-)

KB