Negative GA on Diane Rehms Show

Andrew Sarangan wrote:

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Of course you are right. But don't hold your breath.

I accidentally hear Geraldo Rivera on the TV a few days ago. I used to
think he was a moron; now he's proved it.

He was blathering about the turn, and how the wing would block the
pilot's view as he banked. IIRC, the plane was a Cirrus, with a low
wing. It would get out of the way of his view.

Heraldo also mentioned the pilot's low time, and how he shouldn't have
been there with so little experience. Well, duh, perhaps that's why he
had an instructor along???????

I wish these idiots would shut up until we have some facts, instead of
filling airwaves with their arrogant blather.

On 18 Oct 2006 20:37:18 -0700, wrote in .com:

I wish these idiots would shut up until we have some facts, instead of
filling airwaves with their arrogant blather.

Jim Fallows, a former Cirrus owner and GA pilot with hundreds
of hours of experience, has written a series of excellent
articles on the crash. This article was highlighted in
today's AVWEB newsletter:

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200610u/lidle-crash-3

Jim is a good friend of a good friend of mine and used
to post occasionally in r.a.p.

Marty
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"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" wrote:

Jim Fallows, a former Cirrus owner and GA pilot with hundreds
of hours of experience, has written a series of excellent
articles on the crash. This article was highlighted in
today's AVWEB newsletter:

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200610u/lidle-crash-3

That's a nice article and the New York Times graphic that he links to is a
very nice and succinct summary of the flight.

On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:51:24 -0000, Jim Logajan wrote in :

"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" wrote:

Jim Fallows, a former Cirrus owner and GA pilot with hundreds
of hours of experience, has written a series of excellent
articles on the crash. This article was highlighted in
today's AVWEB newsletter:

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200610u/lidle-crash-3

That's a nice article and the New York Times graphic that he links to is a
very nice and succinct summary of the flight.

Here's the NYT graphic Jim is referring to:

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/khtm...H_GRAPHIC.html

It certainly does make this clear.

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Jim Logajan wrote:
"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" wrote:


Jim Fallows, a former Cirrus owner and GA pilot with hundreds
of hours of experience, has written a series of excellent
articles on the crash. This article was highlighted in
today's AVWEB newsletter:

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200610u/lidle-crash-3


That's a nice article and the New York Times graphic that he links to is a
very nice and succinct summary of the flight.

I think this article is also less than accurate, especially the
statements about a stalled airplane going "straight down." Many
airplanes can be held in a stalled condition at an attitude that is far
from straight down. Even in a spin the airplane is seldom pointing
straight down and many airplanes spin in a fairly flat attitude.


Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:

I think this article is also less than accurate, especially the
statements about a stalled airplane going "straight down." Many
airplanes can be held in a stalled condition at an attitude that is far
from straight down. Even in a spin the airplane is seldom pointing
straight down and many airplanes spin in a fairly flat attitude.


Matt

A few times during my student days, I'd stall the 152 and hold it there
for a while. It's an interesting way to lose altitude, and you'd
better stay coordinated. But you CAN hold the yoke all the way back
and fly stalled.

wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:

I think this article is also less than accurate, especially the
statements about a stalled airplane going "straight down." Many
airplanes can be held in a stalled condition at an attitude that is far
from straight down. Even in a spin the airplane is seldom pointing
straight down and many airplanes spin in a fairly flat attitude.


Matt

A few times during my student days, I'd stall the 152 and hold it there
for a while. It's an interesting way to lose altitude, and you'd
better stay coordinated. But you CAN hold the yoke all the way back
and fly stalled.

You can kick the rudder hard and spin it to lose altitude without
picking up a lot of airspeed as well :-)

wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:


I think this article is also less than accurate, especially the
statements about a stalled airplane going "straight down." Many
airplanes can be held in a stalled condition at an attitude that is far
from straight down. Even in a spin the airplane is seldom pointing
straight down and many airplanes spin in a fairly flat attitude.


Matt


A few times during my student days, I'd stall the 152 and hold it there
for a while. It's an interesting way to lose altitude, and you'd
better stay coordinated. But you CAN hold the yoke all the way back
and fly stalled.


True, and you don't go "straight down."


Matt