Tomcat in Air and Space Museum

I was out at the Stephen F. Udvar-Hazy annex of the National Air and Space
Museum today (near Dulles airport) and saw their newest acquisition: an
F-14D Tomcat. This is one of the remanufactured F-14As, and it is one that
shot down a MiG in 1989.

Oddly, it does not have a MiG silhouette painted on it. Any idea why?

Anybody have a list of the preserved Tomcats? I saw one up in Kalamazoo a
few weeks ago.



D

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I was out at the Stephen F. Udvar-Hazy annex of the National Air and Space
Museum today (near Dulles airport) and saw their newest acquisition: an
F-14D Tomcat. This is one of the remanufactured F-14As, and it is one
that
shot down a MiG in 1989.

Oddly, it does not have a MiG silhouette painted on it. Any idea why?

Anybody have a list of the preserved Tomcats? I saw one up in Kalamazoo a
few weeks ago.



D

Due to the recent retirement of the type, things are very much in flux. For
example, Lone Star Flight Museum in Galveston has been allocated one, but is
having trouble raising the money for transporting and preserving it.

http://www.coastcomp.com/av/pres/presf.htm (Scroll down)
http://www.f-14association.com/display.htm
http://www.tomcat-sunset/ (Link is intermittent - keep trying)

Bob McKellar

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Anybody have a list of the preserved Tomcats? I saw one up in Kalamazoo a
few weeks ago.

Due to the recent retirement of the type, things are very much in flux. For
example, Lone Star Flight Museum in Galveston has been allocated one, but is
having trouble raising the money for transporting and preserving it.

http://www.coastcomp.com/av/pres/presf.htm (Scroll down)
http://www.f-14association.com/display.htm
http://www.tomcat-sunset/ (Link is intermittent - keep trying)

One is at the Virginia Aviation Museum at Richmond International
Airport, but I haven't actually seen the jet. It was flown there from
Oceana, though, so it's definitely on-site.

"Jeb Hoge" wrote in message
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Bob McKellar wrote:
"DDAY" wrote in message
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Anybody have a list of the preserved Tomcats? I saw one up in
Kalamazoo a
few weeks ago.

Due to the recent retirement of the type, things are very much in flux.
For
example, Lone Star Flight Museum in Galveston has been allocated one,
but is
having trouble raising the money for transporting and preserving it.

http://www.coastcomp.com/av/pres/presf.htm (Scroll down)
http://www.f-14association.com/display.htm
http://www.tomcat-sunset/ (Link is intermittent - keep trying)

One is at the Virginia Aviation Museum at Richmond International
Airport, but I haven't actually seen the jet. It was flown there from
Oceana, though, so it's definitely on-site.


There is also one at a "warbird" museum in Florida, I forget
precisely where, believe it was near Daytona Beach. It was from
the JFK if I recall.

It was placed next to an old J-3 Cub or similar single seat
plane from that era - an interesting contrast to say the least.

Does anyone know what the procedure is to acquire a retired
Tomcat ? can i just open up my own warbird museum ? (and are
they de-milled ? if so, how ?)

DDAY wrote:
I was out at the Stephen F. Udvar-Hazy annex of the National Air and Space
Museum today (near Dulles airport) and saw their newest acquisition: an
F-14D Tomcat. This is one of the remanufactured F-14As, and it is one that
shot down a MiG in 1989.

Oddly, it does not have a MiG silhouette painted on it. Any idea why?

Anybody have a list of the preserved Tomcats? I saw one up in Kalamazoo a
few weeks ago.



D

Not a fan of the Turkey(I have over 1000 hrs in them), think they are
best when on a 'stick' somewhere....

wrote:
DDAY wrote:
I was out at the Stephen F. Udvar-Hazy annex of the National Air and Space
Museum today (near Dulles airport) and saw their newest acquisition: an
F-14D Tomcat. This is one of the remanufactured F-14As, and it is one that
shot down a MiG in 1989.

Oddly, it does not have a MiG silhouette painted on it. Any idea why?

Anybody have a list of the preserved Tomcats? I saw one up in Kalamazoo a
few weeks ago.



D

Not a fan of the Turkey(I have over 1000 hrs in them), think they are
best when on a 'stick' somewhere....

You prefer Bugs?? First time I have seen someone not like their a/c.
Personally, I hate the idea of an all- Effay Teen airwing - I keep
waiting to see one with a rotodome! I understand all the reasons why
it makes sense, but I just can't get over the decision to not re-wing
the Intruders to keep a true bomb-truck in the arsenal.

Were you flying them back when they were powered by the first anemic
firetrap engines? (That would certainly explain it)

Oh, and we have one of them at the Gillespie Field Annex to our San
Diego Air & Space Museum.

v/r
Gordon
====(A+C)====
(my experience with the Turkey is participating in two at-sea rescues
in 1980, a Pukin Dawg and a Ghostrider).

Gordon wrote:
wrote:
DDAY wrote:
I was out at the Stephen F. Udvar-Hazy annex of the National Air and Space
Museum today (near Dulles airport) and saw their newest acquisition: an
F-14D Tomcat. This is one of the remanufactured F-14As, and it is one that
shot down a MiG in 1989.

Oddly, it does not have a MiG silhouette painted on it. Any idea why?

Anybody have a list of the preserved Tomcats? I saw one up in Kalamazoo a
few weeks ago.



D

Not a fan of the Turkey(I have over 1000 hrs in them), think they are
best when on a 'stick' somewhere....

You prefer Bugs?? First time I have seen someone not like their a/c.

'My' aircraft was the F-4...

Personally, I hate the idea of an all- Effay Teen airwing - I keep
waiting to see one with a rotodome! I understand all the reasons why
it makes sense, but I just can't get over the decision to not re-wing
the Intruders to keep a true bomb-truck in the arsenal.

Were you flying them back when they were powered by the first anemic
firetrap engines? (That would certainly explain it)

I was flying them with the crappy flight controls, crappy engines,
crappy CADC...etc...
I flew the F-14A+ in VX-4..nice engines, crappy avionics. I saw the
F-14D...was in the planning for the cockpit...and it sucked compared to
the analog F-16N I flew...


Oh, and we have one of them at the Gillespie Field Annex to our San
Diego Air & Space Museum.

v/r
Gordon
====(A+C)====
(my experience with the Turkey is participating in two at-sea rescues
in 1980, a Pukin Dawg and a Ghostrider).

In article . com,
wrote:

Gordon wrote:
wrote:
DDAY wrote:
I was out at the Stephen F. Udvar-Hazy annex of the National Air
and Space
Museum today (near Dulles airport) and saw their newest acquisition: an
F-14D Tomcat. This is one of the remanufactured F-14As, and it is
one that
shot down a MiG in 1989.

Oddly, it does not have a MiG silhouette painted on it. Any idea why?

Anybody have a list of the preserved Tomcats? I saw one up in
Kalamazoo a
few weeks ago.



D

Not a fan of the Turkey(I have over 1000 hrs in them), think they are
best when on a 'stick' somewhere....

You prefer Bugs?? First time I have seen someone not like their a/c.

'My' aircraft was the F-4...

Personally, I hate the idea of an all- Effay Teen airwing - I keep
waiting to see one with a rotodome! I understand all the reasons why
it makes sense, but I just can't get over the decision to not re-wing
the Intruders to keep a true bomb-truck in the arsenal.

Were you flying them back when they were powered by the first anemic
firetrap engines? (That would certainly explain it)

I was flying them with the crappy flight controls, crappy engines,
crappy CADC...etc...
I flew the F-14A+ in VX-4..nice engines, crappy avionics. I saw the
F-14D...was in the planning for the cockpit...and it sucked compared to
the analog F-16N I flew...

unless you need to fire a missile...

--
Harry Andreas
Engineering raconteur

Harry Andreas wrote:
In article . com,
wrote:

Gordon wrote:
wrote:
DDAY wrote:
I was out at the Stephen F. Udvar-Hazy annex of the National Air
and Space
Museum today (near Dulles airport) and saw their newest acquisition: an
F-14D Tomcat. This is one of the remanufactured F-14As, and it is
one that
shot down a MiG in 1989.

Oddly, it does not have a MiG silhouette painted on it. Any idea why?

Anybody have a list of the preserved Tomcats? I saw one up in
Kalamazoo a
few weeks ago.



D

Not a fan of the Turkey(I have over 1000 hrs in them), think they are
best when on a 'stick' somewhere....

You prefer Bugs?? First time I have seen someone not like their a/c.

'My' aircraft was the F-4...

Personally, I hate the idea of an all- Effay Teen airwing - I keep
waiting to see one with a rotodome! I understand all the reasons why
it makes sense, but I just can't get over the decision to not re-wing
the Intruders to keep a true bomb-truck in the arsenal.

Were you flying them back when they were powered by the first anemic
firetrap engines? (That would certainly explain it)

I was flying them with the crappy flight controls, crappy engines,
crappy CADC...etc...
I flew the F-14A+ in VX-4..nice engines, crappy avionics. I saw the
F-14D...was in the planning for the cockpit...and it sucked compared to
the analog F-16N I flew...

unless you need to fire a missile...

--
Harry Andreas
Engineering raconteur

???Don't know what you mean? F-16N had all the plumbing for
Aim-9...even tho they were training aides only...just like the first
gen F-16....

DDAY wrote:
I was out at the Stephen F. Udvar-Hazy annex of the National Air and Space
Museum today (near Dulles airport) and saw their newest acquisition: an
F-14D Tomcat. This is one of the remanufactured F-14As, and it is one that
shot down a MiG in 1989.

Oddly, it does not have a MiG silhouette painted on it. Any idea why?

Anybody have a list of the preserved Tomcats? I saw one up in Kalamazoo a
few weeks ago.

I know that there an F-14B at the New England Air Museum in Windsor
Locks, CT, and an A model at the National Warplane Museum in Elmira,
NY. I believe the NEAM bird is former VF-143, but I don't know the
provenance of the other aircraft.

-JTD