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Old October 28th 06, 02:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Lee
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Default Cirrus... is it time for certification review?

"Peter Duniho" wrote:

So, it seems to me that before we start throwing around statements like "the
problem is with the pilots, not the airplanes", it ought to be established
that there *is* a problem in the first place.

Pete


Pete, from the reports I have seen about Cirrus crashes it is clearly
pilot error. Of course the same probably applies to all aircraft
types.

Ron Lee


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Old October 28th 06, 03:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Aluckyguess
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Looks like the Cirrus just gets more puplicity than the rest. I think its
because of the chute. They figure it shoudn't crash.


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Old October 28th 06, 12:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Aluckyguess wrote:
Looks like the Cirrus just gets more puplicity than the rest. I think its
because of the chute. They figure it shoudn't crash.



I think that is some truth to that. I'm waiting for the lawsuit about
the chute that didn't save someone's loved one from themselves. Just as
Piper was sued over their automatic gear extension system and quit using
it, I suspect it is just a matter of time for Cirrus.

Our legal system is completely dysfunctional.

Matt
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Old October 28th 06, 06:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Duniho
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Default Cirrus... is it time for certification review?

"Ron Lee" wrote in message
...
So, it seems to me that before we start throwing around statements like
"the
problem is with the pilots, not the airplanes", it ought to be established
that there *is* a problem in the first place.


Pete, from the reports I have seen about Cirrus crashes it is clearly
pilot error. Of course the same probably applies to all aircraft
types.


Yes, it does. I guess I should clarify that I am interpreting the statement
"the problem is with the pilots, not the airplanes" to mean that the Cirrus
has an unusual problem with the pilots as compared to other airplanes. I
agree that the statement "the problem is with the pilots, not the airplanes"
applies to pretty much any airplane. In that respect, the Cirrus is no
different from any other similar airplanes.

Pete


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Old October 28th 06, 07:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Howard Nelson
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Default Cirrus... is it time for certification review?


"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Ron Lee" wrote in message
...
So, it seems to me that before we start throwing around statements like
"the
problem is with the pilots, not the airplanes", it ought to be

established
that there *is* a problem in the first place.


Pete, from the reports I have seen about Cirrus crashes it is clearly
pilot error. Of course the same probably applies to all aircraft
types.


Yes, it does. I guess I should clarify that I am interpreting the

statement
"the problem is with the pilots, not the airplanes" to mean that the

Cirrus
has an unusual problem with the pilots as compared to other airplanes. I
agree that the statement "the problem is with the pilots, not the

airplanes"
applies to pretty much any airplane. In that respect, the Cirrus is no
different from any other similar airplanes.

Pete


I guess that is why they have type ratings. Rather than a certification
review should there be a "type rating" required for a Cirrus. Wouldn't that
be a slippery slope.

Howard


 




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