What's up with Google???

On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 23:45:31 -0500, "Morgans"
wrote:


"Randy Aldous" wrote

Yep. Just got it twice in a row. I've taken to copying my text to the
clipboard before hitting the "Post" button...
Also been happening just opening up Google Groups - to the page with
all my subscribed groups (before anyone says something about using
Google, the firewall I am behind, which I have no control over, blocks
NNTP traffic, so HTTP is it. :-) )

I don't do anything special, until I get a failure, then I go to "sent items",
and copy the whole message. Then, I go back to the message I was replying to,
hit reply again, delete everything and replace (paste) with my copied message.

Not too hard. g

There actually are people left who post and read news groups ON
google? It wasn't too bad before Google took over, but it sure went
down hill in a hurry afterwards.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

"Roger (K8RI)" wrote:
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 23:45:31 -0500, "Morgans"
wrote:


"Randy Aldous" wrote

Yep. Just got it twice in a row. I've taken to copying my text to the
clipboard before hitting the "Post" button...
Also been happening just opening up Google Groups - to the page with
all my subscribed groups (before anyone says something about using
Google, the firewall I am behind, which I have no control over, blocks
NNTP traffic, so HTTP is it. :-) )

I don't do anything special, until I get a failure, then I go to "sent items",
and copy the whole message. Then, I go back to the message I was replying to,
hit reply again, delete everything and replace (paste) with my copied message.

Not too hard. g

There actually are people left who post and read news groups ON
google? It wasn't too bad before Google took over, but it sure went
down hill in a hurry afterwards.

Took over what?

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

--
Don Poitras

On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 12:40:58 +0000 (UTC), (Don Poitras) wrote in :

"Roger (K8RI)" wrote:
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 23:45:31 -0500, "Morgans"
wrote:

"Randy Aldous" wrote

Yep. Just got it twice in a row. I've taken to copying my text to the
clipboard before hitting the "Post" button...
Also been happening just opening up Google Groups - to the page with
all my subscribed groups (before anyone says something about using
Google, the firewall I am behind, which I have no control over, blocks
NNTP traffic, so HTTP is it. :-) )

I don't do anything special, until I get a failure, then I go to "sent items",
and copy the whole message. Then, I go back to the message I was replying to,
hit reply again, delete everything and replace (paste) with my copied message.

Not too hard. g

There actually are people left who post and read news groups ON
google? It wasn't too bad before Google took over, but it sure went
down hill in a hurry afterwards.

Took over what?

I'm gonna speculate that he's talking about the late,
great DejaNews, whose archives were taken over by
Google in 2001.

DejaNews archived newsgroups and provided a search
engine from around 1995 to 2001.

http://groups.google.com/support/bin/static.py?page=timeline.html

I'm personally very grateful for the services Google
provides. Usenet would be a vastly poorer place without
Google. But I understand the hankering on the part of
some to go back to the glory days before Google--or before
DejaNews--when only the best and brightest could figure out
how to find and follow newsgroups. I'm from the September
that Never Ended era myself, so I've only heard about those
halcyon days from grizzled and somewhat cranky elders.

Marty
--
The Big-8 hierarchies (comp, humanities, misc, news, rec, sci, soc, talk)
are under new management. See http://www.big-8.org for details.

On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 09:08:55 -0500, Martin X. Moleski, SJ wrote:

I'm from the September that Never Ended era myself

that September already ended [1] :-))


#m

[1] aol cancelled there usenet service.
--
Enemy Combatant http://itsnotallbad.com/
... because a President says so ...

In article ,
Martin Hotze wrote:

that September already ended [1] :-))


#m

[1] aol cancelled there usenet service.

sweet!

(btw - "their", but that's probably a typo on your part).

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:00:44 -0500, Bob Noel wrote:

that September already ended [1] :-))


#m

[1] aol cancelled there usenet service.

sweet!

well ...

(btw - "their", but that's probably a typo on your part).

yes. saw that.
but I use Forte Agent in free-mode so I couldn't supersede. :-(

#m
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Enemy Combatant http://itsnotallbad.com/
... because a President says so ...

On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 09:08:55 -0500, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ"
wrote:

On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 12:40:58 +0000 (UTC), (Don Poitras) wrote in :

"Roger (K8RI)" wrote:
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 23:45:31 -0500, "Morgans"
wrote:

"Randy Aldous" wrote

Yep. Just got it twice in a row. I've taken to copying my text to the
clipboard before hitting the "Post" button...
Also been happening just opening up Google Groups - to the page with
all my subscribed groups (before anyone says something about using
Google, the firewall I am behind, which I have no control over, blocks
NNTP traffic, so HTTP is it. :-) )

I don't do anything special, until I get a failure, then I go to "sent items",
and copy the whole message. Then, I go back to the message I was replying to,
hit reply again, delete everything and replace (paste) with my copied message.

Not too hard. g

There actually are people left who post and read news groups ON
google? It wasn't too bad before Google took over, but it sure went
down hill in a hurry afterwards.

Took over what?

I'm gonna speculate that he's talking about the late,
great DejaNews, whose archives were taken over by
Google in 2001.

DejaNews archived newsgroups and provided a search
engine from around 1995 to 2001.

http://groups.google.com/support/bin/static.py?page=timeline.html

Deja News was vastly superior to Google News.

I'm personally very grateful for the services Google
provides. Usenet would be a vastly poorer place without

As am I

Google. But I understand the hankering on the part of
some to go back to the glory days before Google--or before

Now there you made a left turn on false assumptions and that is
plural. There were no "glory days" and there is no hankering to
return.

DejaNews--when only the best and brightest could figure out

It really wasn't that way. DejaNews was probably one of the easiest to
use, on-line news readers that has existed. Google has done a lot of
great things but they screwed up a very nice news reader.

how to find and follow newsgroups. I'm from the September

It is true the net was not as well organized back in those days and
some things could be more difficult to find. Searches were more
difficult and there was no where near the information available.

that Never Ended era myself, so I've only heard about those
halcyon days from grizzled and somewhat cranky elders.

Deja News was easier to read and use than Google News Groups and it
was organized much better for the end user. It was much more like
using one of today's news readers which are very easy to use. You
certainly didn't need to be a computing guru to use it. OTOH they
didn't have much of a search engine.



Marty
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:44:13 -0500, "Roger (K8RI)" wrote in :

... But I understand the hankering on the part of
some to go back to the glory days before Google--or before

Now there you made a left turn on false assumptions and that is
plural. There were no "glory days" and there is no hankering to
return.

We've got a guy in news.groups who expresses such
fond memories and vain hopes. I've promised not
to name or quote him, so he'll just have to be
my Voldemort. He'd like to roll back the clock
to when spaf was in charge.

that Never Ended era myself, so I've only heard about those
halcyon days from grizzled and somewhat cranky elders.

Deja News was easier to read and use than Google News Groups and it
was organized much better for the end user. It was much more like
using one of today's news readers which are very easy to use. You
certainly didn't need to be a computing guru to use it. OTOH they
didn't have much of a search engine.

I used DejaNews and know I liked it a lot, but I don't
remember the interface at all. I hear a lot of complaints
about Google and share a few of them, but (on balance) I'm
delighted that they're keeping the archives open for business.

So that folks will know how much salt to use on this, I don't
earn anything at all from Google, but I volunteer time on a
committee with someone who does, so that may tend to bias
my view.

Marty
--
The Big-8 hierarchies (comp, humanities, misc, news, rec, sci, soc, talk)
are under new management. See http://www.big-8.org for details.

"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" wrote:
"Roger (K8RI)" wrote:
There were no "glory days" and there is no hankering to return.

We've got a guy in news.groups who expresses such
fond memories and vain hopes. I've promised not
to name or quote him,

You mean Wayne Brown?

On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 12:40:58 +0000 (UTC), (Don
Poitras) wrote:

"Roger (K8RI)" wrote:
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 23:45:31 -0500, "Morgans"
wrote:


"Randy Aldous" wrote

Yep. Just got it twice in a row. I've taken to copying my text to the
clipboard before hitting the "Post" button...
Also been happening just opening up Google Groups - to the page with
all my subscribed groups (before anyone says something about using
Google, the firewall I am behind, which I have no control over, blocks
NNTP traffic, so HTTP is it. :-) )

I don't do anything special, until I get a failure, then I go to "sent items",
and copy the whole message. Then, I go back to the message I was replying to,
hit reply again, delete everything and replace (paste) with my copied message.

Not too hard. g

There actually are people left who post and read news groups ON
google? It wasn't too bad before Google took over, but it sure went
down hill in a hurry afterwards.

Took over what?

These news groups. I've forgotten the name of the group that had them
before Google, but they were in a much better format, easier to group
and read. It's been a few years back but I'm sure many on here
remember.



Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com