Civil Aviation question

"birdog" wrote in message
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"kontiki" wrote in message
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
The solutions are obvious. Stop regulating those businesses and
establish term limits for legislators.

Exactly.

Right. Look at the congressional class of '94. They came roaring in ready
to change the world. After a few years, some quit in disgust and the rest
were chastized by the "Old Dogs" who taught them how to get along. If we
had a whole new class of '94 every 8-12 years, we'd come closer to getting
an honest government - i. e. term limits. Of course, congress is never
going to propose an amendment to put themselves out on the street, but the
states can bypass congress and call a constitutional convention. Since a
lot of states have tried, unsuccessfully, I don't understand why this has
not been done.


I have one problem with term limits. It gives added power to several groups
that have shown very little ability to deal with power. Government
employees.

Gig 601XL Builder opined

"birdog" wrote in message
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"kontiki" wrote in message
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
The solutions are obvious. Stop regulating those businesses and
establish term limits for legislators.

Exactly.

Right. Look at the congressional class of '94. They came roaring in ready
to change the world. After a few years, some quit in disgust and the rest
were chastized by the "Old Dogs" who taught them how to get along. If we
had a whole new class of '94 every 8-12 years, we'd come closer to getting
an honest government - i. e. term limits. Of course, congress is never
going to propose an amendment to put themselves out on the street, but the
states can bypass congress and call a constitutional convention. Since a
lot of states have tried, unsuccessfully, I don't understand why this has
not been done.


I have one problem with term limits. It gives added power to several groups
that have shown very little ability to deal with power. Government
employees.

Term limits should then apply to _all_ civilians in government.



-ash
Cthulhu in 2005!
Why wait for nature?

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I have one problem with term limits. It gives added power to several
groups
that have shown very little ability to deal with power. Government
employees.

Term limits should then apply to _all_ civilians in government.


Why limit only civilians? Some would submit that limits are also desirable
for uniformed employees as they have even more opportunity for empire
building, and are also more likely to experience loss of ability, discretion
and motivation due to burnout.

Private opined

snip
I have one problem with term limits. It gives added power to several
groups
that have shown very little ability to deal with power. Government
employees.

Term limits should then apply to _all_ civilians in government.


Why limit only civilians? Some would submit that limits are also desirable
for uniformed employees as they have even more opportunity for empire
building, and are also more likely to experience loss of ability, discretion
and motivation due to burnout.

Because there is no civilian equivilant of a soldier... Not even a policeman.

For other government jobs a person can serve for a while and then go onto
another simular job.



-ash
Cthulhu in 2005!
Why wait for nature?

Because there is no civilian equivilant of a soldier...

Lawyer.

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Because there is no civilian equivilant of a soldier...

Lawyer.

Don't insult the soldier

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Jose opined

Because there is no civilian equivilant of a soldier...

Lawyer.

Using lawyers as shock troops has been found to contravene the Geneva
Conventions.


-ash
Cthulhu in 2005!
Why wait for nature?

"Ash Wyllie" wrote

For other government jobs a person can serve for a while and then go onto
another simular job.

My question is, how far up your rectal canal is your head?

These people then have forgone the opportunity to contribute to a pension
program, that can lead to retirement, then?

Why would ANYONE ever work for a governmental job, in that case. I see lots of
opportunity for even greater incompetance. Only losers would take a government
job.
--
Jim in NC

Morgans opined

"Ash Wyllie" wrote

For other government jobs a person can serve for a while and then go onto
another simular job.

My question is, how far up your rectal canal is your head?

Not as far as you, I would think.

These people then have forgone the opportunity to contribute to a pension
program, that can lead to retirement, then?

If they have, it was thier choice to do so. There are IRAs for a start, and
government pensions are often better than private pensions. Pensions should
be portble in any case.

But bad pension laws are nt a reason to have a permanent professional bureaucracy
running a country for thier own benifit.

Why would ANYONE ever work for a governmental job, in that case.

A sense of civic duty?

I see lots
of opportunity for even greater incompetance. Only losers would take a
government job.

Some might suggest that is the situation we have now.



-ash
Cthulhu in 2005!
Why wait for nature?

These people then have forgone the opportunity to contribute to a pension
program, that can lead to retirement, then?

If they have, it was thier choice to do so

My point, exactly. Not much reason for quality people to go to work for someone
(like the government) that they can not retire with.

There are IRAs for a start,

IRA programs do not have employer matching, like good pension programs.

and
government pensions are often better than private pensions.

Yes they are, but you have to be able to retire with the government for them to
work.

Pensions should
be portble in any case.

Yeah, right. What planet are you from. They are not, in 99.99% of the cases.

But bad pension laws are nt a reason to have a permanent professional
bureaucracy
running a country for thier own benifit.

What? The government is controlled by, and at the wim of politicians.

Why would ANYONE ever work for a governmental job, in that case.

A sense of civic duty?

That does not put food on the table. Try again.

I see lots
of opportunity for even greater incompetance. Only losers would take a
government job.

Some might suggest that is the situation we have now.

Never assume what is happening at the present is as bad as it can get. You may
be proved wrong.
--
Jim in NC