I've had it with Chinese tools!

"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
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Hmm. Does ACE have things like safety wire pliers?

Check Sears.

Their website shows an SK pair for $84.99, or Craftsman 6 and 9 inch for
$99.99.

When my father was a salesman for SK back in the early 70s, they had a
lifetime guarantee. He also told me horror stories about Chineese tools.
Basically, they don't heat treat them enough, because it's a slow, expensive
process.

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"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
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Hmm. Does ACE have things like safety wire pliers?

Check Sears.

Their website shows an SK pair for $84.99, or Craftsman 6 and 9 inch for
$99.99.

Each, or for the pair?

When my father was a salesman for SK back in the early 70s, they had a
lifetime guarantee. He also told me horror stories about Chineese tools.
Basically, they don't heat treat them enough, because it's a slow,
expensive process.

The SW pliers I bought suck because the tips don't even meet when you
tighten your grip. Part of it is my fault for not paying good attention when
I bought them.



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"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
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Check Sears.

Their website shows an SK pair for $84.99, or Craftsman 6 and 9 inch for
$99.99.

Each, or for the pair?


For the pair. I can't find them seperately though.


The SW pliers I bought suck because the tips don't even meet when you
tighten your grip. Part of it is my fault for not paying good attention
when I bought them.

Not familiar with SW. But if they have a lifetime guarantee, return them
saying they bent.

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"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
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Check Sears.

Their website shows an SK pair for $84.99, or Craftsman 6 and 9 inch for
$99.99.

Each, or for the pair?

For the pair. I can't find them seperately though.

That is _much_ more reasonable.

The SW pliers I bought suck because the tips don't even meet when you
tighten your grip. Part of it is my fault for not paying good attention
when I bought them.

Not familiar with SW. But if they have a lifetime guarantee, return them
saying they bent.

No vendor at the OSH outdoor market offers any kind of guarantee, that I can
remember.



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"Juan Jimenez" wrote

The SW pliers I bought suck because the tips don't even meet when you
tighten your grip. Part of it is my fault for not paying good attention when
I bought them.

They don't have to meet, if they are still able to grip the thinest piece of
safety wire you will use.

They do not have to be able to twist thread! G

Lineman's pliers are built like that. They do not meet, but still will grip
down to about 18 gauge wire.

No vendor at the OSH outdoor market offers any kind of guarantee, that I can
remember.

If they are a brand that Craftsman carries, take it to any Sears store. They
will replace them on the spot, no receipt, no questions asked.

At least that is my experience. It does not matter where you bought them.
Don't ask don't tell, or something like that!
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:50:06 -0500, "Morgans"
wrote:


"Juan Jimenez" wrote

The SW pliers I bought suck because the tips don't even meet when you
tighten your grip. Part of it is my fault for not paying good attention when
I bought them.

They don't have to meet, if they are still able to grip the thinest piece of
safety wire you will use.

They do not have to be able to twist thread! G

Lineman's pliers are built like that. They do not meet, but still will grip
down to about 18 gauge wire.

No vendor at the OSH outdoor market offers any kind of guarantee, that I can
remember.

If they are a brand that Craftsman carries, take it to any Sears store. They
will replace them on the spot, no receipt, no questions asked.

Gee, they didn't want to replace the Craftsman flush cutting side
cutters I used on a live circuit and these surfaces didn't meet
either.

I can't even find a good (these were the high priced ones) pair any
more.



At least that is my experience. It does not matter where you bought them.
Don't ask don't tell, or something like that!
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

"Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message
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Gee, they didn't want to replace the Craftsman flush cutting side
cutters I used on a live circuit and these surfaces didn't meet
either.

Try another store.

My brother broke a Snap-On ratchet handle by putting a six fot pipe on it
and trying to remove leaf springs with it. The Snap-on truck refused to
replace it. The owner of the service station took it from him, found another
Snap-On truck and had it replaced. He also told the driver who replaced it
to take over his account.

My father sold hand tools in the 60s and 70s. First for P&C (Proto and
Challanger) and later for SK. He would stop in at the hardware stores and
sign the broken tool credits. He was told that broken tool credits were a
more a marketing issue than a warranty issue. Under no circumstances was he
to refuse a broken tool credit. As long as the credits didn't exceen
purchases, nothing was looked at.

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Juan Jimenez" wrote

The SW pliers I bought suck because the tips don't even meet when you
tighten your grip. Part of it is my fault for not paying good attention
when I bought them.

They don't have to meet, if they are still able to grip the thinest piece
of safety wire you will use.

Kinda hard to do if they don't even try to meet.

They do not have to be able to twist thread! G

Yeah, yeah.

Lineman's pliers are built like that. They do not meet, but still will
grip down to about 18 gauge wire.

Mine meet, but not close enough at the tip, which after working for years
with good tools in the Corps I think they should.

If they are a brand that Craftsman carries, take it to any Sears store.
They will replace them on the spot, no receipt, no questions asked.

but does Craftsman sell at OSH?

At least that is my experience. It does not matter where you bought them.
Don't ask don't tell, or something like that!

I agree. Sears does honor its warranties.



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