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Old November 25th 06, 03:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Morgans[_2_]
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"Mxsmanic" wrote

Is it better to use just the rudder or differential braking to turn on
taxiways? I understand that steering mechanisms vary considerably
from one aircraft to another, but I'm still curious. In this case,
I'm wondering about a Baron 58, the aircraft I fly in my sim (most of
the time).


Why do you think anyone here would know? These are people that fly airplanes,
not computer games. They really don't care how the Barron handles on the
ground. They go out and fly airplanes. In the real air, on real taxiways, with
real controls, not plastic things with a wire going to the back of a computer.

They are different. The computer only simulates, and it poorly simulates
airplanes on the ground, so we have been told.

Go ask you simulator buddies. Perhaps they care.
--
Jim in NC

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Old November 25th 06, 04:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Morgans" wrote in
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Go ask you simulator buddies. Perhaps they care.


Better be careful Jim!!!

You gave the best advise of all, and it will be ignored, like everybody
else's good suggestions....

We just need to kee ignoring this guy and not answer HIS questions is the
only way to get rid of this nut.

Allen

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Old November 25th 06, 05:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 16:24:11 GMT, A Lieberma
wrote:

"Morgans" wrote in
:

Go ask you simulator buddies. Perhaps they care.


Better be careful Jim!!!

You gave the best advise of all, and it will be ignored, like everybody
else's good suggestions....

We just need to kee ignoring this guy and not answer HIS questions is the
only way to get rid of this nut.

Allen


If it wasn't for all the silly replies from Mxsmanic the answers to
his question are often very useful. There's lots of competent pilots
with a wide range of knowledge in these groups.

I can't decide if I should read useful replies or ignore the lot!
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Old November 25th 06, 11:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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wrote

If it wasn't for all the silly replies from Mxsmanic the answers to
his question are often very useful. There's lots of competent pilots
with a wide range of knowledge in these groups.

I can't decide if I should read useful replies or ignore the lot!


So start a new thread. The problem is all of the people that give good answers,
by replying to the nut.

It is going to take discipline to get rid of him. Even if you know a good
answer, it is NOT the right thing to answer it in response to his post. Go
start a new thread, and give the answer as a hypothetical situation, or
something.

I know everyone wants to talk airplanes, but really, he needs to go back to the
simulator group. Like has been suggested, there have been a lot of people, good
people stop reading, because of the annoying nutcase.

To get rid of a troll, you can not answer him in a dignified manner, no matter
what. Make fun of the question, insult the person, or don't answer, but don't
treat the question like a real question. It takes restraint.

JMHO.
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Jim in NC

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Old November 26th 06, 12:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Morgans" wrote in
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To get rid of a troll, you can not answer him in a dignified manner,
no matter what. Make fun of the question, insult the person, or don't
answer, but don't treat the question like a real question. It takes
restraint.


Lordy it takes a lot or restraint, especially when the nutball questions
the real world.....

Gotta pat myself on the back, I have not and will not reply to anything
directly, only determine to remind new people that I see that they are
dealing with a troll and gently remind them to ignore him, not answer his
questions and so on. And as Jim says above, the new person can easily
start their own threads.

Yes, some lurkers may not like it, and personally, I don't care how good
the questions he may ask, the lurkers DO HAVE A KEYBOARD and can ask the
questions themselves.

I also re-iterate, I can't imagine a pilot not helping a fellow pilot,
armchair pilot or even a sim pilot, but this guy is beyond these categories
when he starts his combative answers without having any knowledge of the
real deal.

Allen
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Old November 26th 06, 12:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Nor have I responded, just like I said I wouldn't.

Jon

A Lieberma wrote:

Gotta pat myself on the back, I have not and will not reply to anything
directly, only determine to remind new people that I see that they are
dealing with a troll and gently remind them to ignore him, not answer his
questions and so on. And as Jim says above, the new person can easily
start their own threads.

Yes, some lurkers may not like it, and personally, I don't care how good
the questions he may ask, the lurkers DO HAVE A KEYBOARD and can ask the
questions themselves.

I also re-iterate, I can't imagine a pilot not helping a fellow pilot,
armchair pilot or even a sim pilot, but this guy is beyond these categories
when he starts his combative answers without having any knowledge of the
real deal.

Allen

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Old November 26th 06, 05:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Jon Kraus" wrote

Nor have I responded, just like I said I wouldn't.


Great. If we could only get everyone to not respond, we would have it made. I
will only respond to harass.
--
Jim in NC

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Old November 25th 06, 05:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Historically this has not happened and my guess is that it will not. If
you notice there are several very valuable folks that are not posting
here anymore and my guess is that this freakn' MXidiot has something to
do with it.

I'd love to start a censored list where the idiots could be sent off to
pasture (let the bleeding hearts flame away) and the real questions
about piloting our real aircraft could continue like it used to. Just my .02

Jon


A Lieberman wrote:

We just need to kee ignoring this guy and not answer HIS questions is the
only way to get rid of this nut.

Allen

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Old November 26th 06, 12:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Jon Kraus wrote in
:

Historically this has not happened and my guess is that it will not.
If you notice there are several very valuable folks that are not
posting here anymore and my guess is that this freakn' MXidiot has
something to do with it.


Yeah, unfortunately you are right, one thing for sure, the folks not
contributing are very much missed.....

Maybe as more see what we as a group can do, the less responses Mx
nutball will get and those folks will come back onboard.

Jim in NC I see is giving heads up about Mx's history, the more that
does this, the less answers he will get, to the point that maybe NOBODY
will respond to his posts.

It's bad enough I am adding to this by trying to drum up non responders
and not talk about aviation related stuff, but somehow, someway, we
regulars CAN take back the group with the power of peer power by
ignoring this nut.

I'd love to start a censored list where the idiots could be sent off
to pasture (let the bleeding hearts flame away) and the real questions
about piloting our real aircraft could continue like it used to. Just
.02


I think this is called moderated, don't know enuf about newsgroups to
figure out about moderated groups. Just know enough to be dangerous....

Allen
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Old November 25th 06, 04:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Jim,
You bring up a very good point. I myself am a real pilot, but do use
simulators as well. Without getting pulled too much into mxsmanics
history or trying to sound critical (I'm REALLY holding back here), I
wonder why he posts so many questions HERE? I've used sims for years,
both for fun, and procedures training, etc, and sites like avsim or
flightsim have whole communities that ponder nothing but the types of
questions that mxsmanic posts. They are for the most part friendly,
intelligent, and in many cases, a number of them are also real world
pilots. Most importantly- they specialize in simulator stuff. Mx- you
could be a god over there with all your questions..... OR, why not
enroll in a private pilot ground school class somewhere? It's usually
just a few hundred dollars and gets you around 40hours with an
instructor. A number of FBO's here in Seattle offer classes every few
months- the class can be done in a few nights over 2 weeks. Would teach
you a lot about flight, and you would never even need to leave the
ground. Plus, you could interact with other students who are also
learning the same stuff.

By the way- I use the pedals which connect to the nosewheel for
steering (C182RG), but don't forget to use your ailerons during taxi,
to prevent any x-wind (virtual or otherwise) from lifting one of your
wings. (er, arm rests... depends on what model you are "sitting" in).
You can find aileron taxi corrections in the AIM or FAA airplane flying
handbook.



Why do you think anyone here would know? These are people that fly airplanes,
not computer games. They really don't care how the Barron handles on the
ground. They go out and fly airplanes. In the real air, on real taxiways, with
real controls, not plastic things with a wire going to the back of a computer.

They are different. The computer only simulates, and it poorly simulates
airplanes on the ground, so we have been told.

Go ask you simulator buddies. Perhaps they care.
--
Jim in NC


 




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