Part 135 question

"Brian" wrote in message
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He also did not specify if he was carrying passengers. It may not have
acutally been a part 135 flight.

We used to do this a lot when transporting prisoners. When actually
transporting the prisoner we would often hire a Private pilot to ride
along as a Guard (required for our operation). The of course could not
fly while carrying the prisoners. However we often had dead head
flights where the Part 135 pilot would take off his Charter Pilot Hat
and put on his Flight Instructor Hat and give the student Dual
instruction on the deadhead portion of the flight. The PP got
inexpensive time in usually complex aircraft this way.

Brian




Dallas wrote:
I realize this is a GA group but I thought some of the guys with a
commercial ticket might be able to answer this question.

I have a friend with a PP-SEL that was coming back on a commuter flight
from the Bahamas in a Cessna 402. He managed to get the right seat and
after chatting with the pilot, he was allowed to fly the aircraft.

Are there any regulations specifically precluding a pilot from doing this
or is it at the pilot's discretion?


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Dallas


Brian that would be completely legal and is pretty close to how I have 1
hour of Metroliner dual time in my log book but I think it is safe to infer
from the OP that this wasn't such a case.

If the destination is in the USA and it is USA registered.



"Steve Foley" wrote in message
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| "Dallas" wrote in
message
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| I have a friend with a PP-SEL that was coming back on a
commuter flight
| from the Bahamas....
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| Does the FAA have authority over a flight operating over
international
| waters?
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"Steve Foley" wrote in message
news:6Llbh.10350$IW2.5393@trndny03...
I have a friend with a PP-SEL that was coming back on a commuter flight
from the Bahamas....

Does the FAA have authority over a flight operating over international
waters?

If the flight is operating under FAA regulations, yes. This would include
an FAA-certificated pilot, a US registered airplane, and an FAA-certified
Part 135 operation (all of which are likely to apply here).

Pete

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Scheduled Skyways had a couple back in the late 70's early 80's that I
really think were configured for 10 pax. But we are stretching my memory
way, way too much and they might have been 404s


I vaguely remember C-402s for sale in Trade-A-Plane with the 10 pax
configuration. Frankly, I don't know why they'd offer it like that. The C-402B
that I flew would have struggled to climb with 6 out of its 7 seats filled. The
C-402 is a sweet flying airplane but it's hardly a rocket when it comes to
lifting ability.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

On 29 Nov 2006 12:07:44 -0800, Brian wrote:

He also did not specify if he was carrying passengers. It may not have
acutally been a part 135 flight.


Well, I know he had his wife along so there's one passenger.

--
Dallas

As a private pilot, he also had to be a passenger, too.


"Dallas" wrote in message
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| On 29 Nov 2006 12:07:44 -0800, Brian wrote:
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| He also did not specify if he was carrying passengers.
It may not have
| acutally been a part 135 flight.
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| Well, I know he had his wife along so there's one
passenger.
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| Dallas

"Dallas" wrote in message I think the 402 has 6 passenger seats so he's
not on the hook there.

The C-402 came in a commuter version with 10 seats total. You are thinking
of the Business-liner option for seating.

D.

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
I vaguely remember C-402s for sale in Trade-A-Plane with the 10 pax
configuration. Frankly, I don't know why they'd offer it like that.

Cessna offered 10 seats because the C-402 was the plane of choice in the
early days of commuter airlines.

The C-402B
that I flew would have struggled to climb with 6 out of its 7 seats
filled. The
C-402 is a sweet flying airplane but it's hardly a rocket when it comes to
lifting ability.

It's a money-making airplane. It drives like a Caddy.. as long as both
engines are running.

D.

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 00:11:32 GMT, Capt.Doug wrote:

The C-402 came in a commuter version with 10 seats total.

Hard to believe you could get 10 people and their luggage on board. I
recall it doesn't fly very far on one engine.
--
Dallas

"Capt.Doug" wrote

It's a money-making airplane. It drives like a Caddy.. as long as both
engines are running.

You say that like you have flown one, for a while.

You spend time, long ago, driving one of them?
--
Jim in NC