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Old December 28th 06, 04:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.misc
Gus Cabre
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Default Good flying fiction?

Not flying fiction, but the story of Flt Lt Geoffrey Wellum who flew during
the Battle of Britain: "First Light". I couldn't put it down until finished.
Highly recommended.

Gus
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"Chris Wells" wrote in
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I've been looking for some good flying stories. A friend recommended
"The Reluctant Messiah", which I've yet to find. Can someone recommend
more, preferably written by a pilot & for pilots?




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Not exactly fiction, "Fate is the Hunter", by Earnest K. Gann

Good read.

Al G




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Old January 1st 07, 02:39 PM
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I also thought I'd mention a book called "Flights of Passage", about a Navy bomber pilot in the Pacific during WW2. (sorry, the author's name escapes me at the moment)

Also, "Silent Wings: Adventures in Motorless Flight" - great stuff about gliders, including a lot about their use in WW2...plus "Flight of Passage", about a 17-year-old and a 15-year-old who restored a Piper Cub and flew it across the US & back.
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Old January 1st 07, 04:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.misc
Steven P. McNicoll
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Default P39 elevator & aileron construction?


"Chris Wells" wrote in message
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I recently visited the Niagara Aerospace Museum (thumbs up!) and got the
opportunity to see a P39 Airacobra close-up...and I noticed that the
elevator and ailerons (& possibly the rudder as well) were
fabric-covered, instead of aluminum like the rest of the plane. Is this
the way they were built?


Yes.


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Old January 1st 07, 04:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.misc
Orval Fairbairn
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Default P39 elevator & aileron construction?

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Chris Wells wrote:

I recently visited the Niagara Aerospace Museum (thumbs up!) and got the
opportunity to see a P39 Airacobra close-up...and I noticed that the
elevator and ailerons (& possibly the rudder as well) were
fabric-covered, instead of aluminum like the rest of the plane. Is this
the way they were built?


Yup. The P-51 also had a fabric-covered rudder; early-model Corsairs had
a fair amount of fabric on the wings, too.
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Old January 1st 07, 08:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.misc
David Lesher
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Default P39 elevator & aileron construction?

Orval Fairbairn writes:


I recently visited the Niagara Aerospace Museum (thumbs up!) and got the
opportunity to see a P39 Airacobra close-up...and I noticed that the
elevator and ailerons (& possibly the rudder as well) were
fabric-covered, instead of aluminum like the rest of the plane. Is this
the way they were built?


Yup. The P-51 also had a fabric-covered rudder; early-model Corsairs had
a fair amount of fabric on the wings, too.


Interesting. I seem to recall reading in Douglas Bader's book how
they jumped the queue to get the more effective aluminum rudder/ailerons
on their aircraft by flying to the factory for the instalation.

A year+ later, the bill arrived and he suggested past squadron
leaders as the ones to ask; one was dead, another a POW, etc..
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Old January 1st 07, 05:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.misc
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Default P39 elevator & aileron construction?

Yes... and quite a few bombers as well... B-17 comes to mind...

Terry

"Chris Wells" wrote in
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I recently visited the Niagara Aerospace Museum (thumbs up!) and got
the
opportunity to see a P39 Airacobra close-up...and I noticed that the
elevator and ailerons (& possibly the rudder as well) were
fabric-covered, instead of aluminum like the rest of the plane. Is
this
the way they were built?




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Chris Wells



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Old January 19th 07, 03:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.misc
Juan Jimenez[_1_]
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Default P39 elevator & aileron construction?

And the DC-3.

"Terry" wrote in message
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Yes... and quite a few bombers as well... B-17 comes to mind...

Terry

"Chris Wells" wrote in
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I recently visited the Niagara Aerospace Museum (thumbs up!) and got the
opportunity to see a P39 Airacobra close-up...and I noticed that the
elevator and ailerons (& possibly the rudder as well) were
fabric-covered, instead of aluminum like the rest of the plane. Is this
the way they were built?




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Old January 19th 07, 03:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.misc
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"Juan Jimenez" wrote in
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And the DC-3.

"Terry" wrote in message
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Yes... and quite a few bombers as well... B-17 comes to mind...

Terry

"Chris Wells" wrote in
message ...

I recently visited the Niagara Aerospace Museum (thumbs up!) and got
the opportunity to see a P39 Airacobra close-up...and I noticed that
the elevator and ailerons (& possibly the rudder as well) were
fabric-covered, instead of aluminum like the rest of the plane. Is
this the way they were built?
Chris Wells



Yep, my aunt sewed fabric for the planes coming out of the Grumman
plant in NY during WWII.
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Old January 19th 07, 06:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.misc
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I think they used fabric to eliminate control surface flutter, the
aft-of-hinge mass being less.

I wonder what they used for dope. Nitrate was common but very
flammable, maybe not great on a warplane. I don't think butyrite
was around yet.
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Old January 19th 07, 06:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.misc
Michael[_1_]
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Default P39 elevator & aileron construction?

Ron Hardin wrote:
I think they used fabric to eliminate control surface flutter, the
aft-of-hinge mass being less.


Delay the onset of flutter, to be pedantic about it. Lacking a solid
unerstanding and good computer models, they just made the control
surfaces as light as possible and hoped for the best.

Michael

 




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