Scary Icing ATC tape

Aluckyguess writes:

The controller was so relaxed during the whole thing.

The controller was behaving like a professional, unlike the pilot.

The only reason she survived is that the ice started to melt--no
thanks to her, since she didn't seem to even be considering ice,
although the controller clearly had some good ideas.

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We are not sure it was ice. Maybe she got into a thunder storm and it
tossed her around. If the temperature she stated was true the ice would not
of melted.
I dont know. We got into some ice the other day. Not a good thing.
She did stay with the plane and never quit flying it.
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Aluckyguess writes:

The controller was so relaxed during the whole thing.

The controller was behaving like a professional, unlike the pilot.

The only reason she survived is that the ice started to melt--no
thanks to her, since she didn't seem to even be considering ice,
although the controller clearly had some good ideas.

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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The controller was behaving like a professional, unlike the pilot.

The only reason she survived is that the ice started to melt--no
thanks to her, since she didn't seem to even be considering ice,
although the controller clearly had some good ideas.

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Listen more carefully/completely...

The controller was so relaxed during the whole thing.

He is obviously not the one at 7500 ft with an out of contol aircraft.

Mike Alexander
PP-ASEL
Temecula, CA
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Mike 'Flyin'8' writes:

He is obviously not the one at 7500 ft with an out of contol aircraft.

I don't think that makes any difference. Some people are calm in
emergencies, others aren't.

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The difference between a controller and a pilot is: If a pilot screws up,
the pilot dies. If the controller screws up, the pilot dies.

Or somethiing like that...

mike

"Aluckyguess" wrote in message
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The controller was so relaxed during the whole thing.

I suppose hindsight is 20/20, but her comments of "I just dropped at
2000 feet per minute with uncommnaded rolls.... I have no idea what
happened..... let's continue 2.5 hours to Bangor" don't really seem to
make much sense to me.

If a plane did that and I didn't have any idea why, I'd lean towards
getting it on the ground ASAP.

I suppose at some point, she must have realized that the ice was
coming off...

--Dan


On Feb 2, 2:51 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
This is the audio tape of a Fed Ex Caravan pilot who tangled with some
severe icing conditions.

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...-26_N1278L-May...

(It's a good-sized .mp3 file, so be patient while it downloads...)

This was given to me by our local FAA safety guy, to share with our
airport user's group. The stark terror in her voice is chilling, and
really points out how quickly things can go bad.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

If a plane did that and I didn't have any idea why, I'd lean towards
getting it on the ground ASAP.

I suppose at some point, she must have realized that the ice was
coming off...

I agree.

She's a tough cookie -- I'd be landing ASAP, to change my shorts.

:-)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

She's a tough cookie -- I'd be landing ASAP, to change my shorts.

:-)

I'm glad she made it, but her ADM sort of came into question in my head,
when after having gone through this frightening situation, she makes the
decision to continue (400NM) even though a pirep showed freezing levels at
even lower altitudes and the controller mentioned light rain along her route
of flight. Gotta admit when I got to that part I started wondering if it
was some (unbeknownst to you) some kind of internet prank/creation.

I thought she should have landed - inspected the plane (especially after
that controller mentioned he might be having trouble hearing her because of
ice on her antennae - I would wonder more about those chunks of ice that may
have broken off when she cycled the boots, whether a piece might of flown
back and bent/partially broke off her com. antennae)?

I dunno, I say, better safer than sorry OR dead..

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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

Dan writes:

I suppose hindsight is 20/20, but her comments of "I just dropped at
2000 feet per minute with uncommnaded rolls.... I have no idea what
happened..... let's continue 2.5 hours to Bangor" don't really seem to
make much sense to me.

If a plane did that and I didn't have any idea why, I'd lean towards
getting it on the ground ASAP.

I suppose at some point, she must have realized that the ice was
coming off...

It's not clear that she ever even thinks about ice; I don't recall her
ever mentioning it. Only ATC talks about that.

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