Straight-ins at uncontrolled airports?

On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:52:17 GMT, "Crash Lander"
wrote:

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
.. .
I did find one page that
talked about an upwind entry into the crosswind, and it argued that if you
are
at pattern altitude, you aren't likely to meet other traffic, but that
seems
like an extraordinarily dangerous assumption given the variability of
climb
rates, runway lengths, departure points on the runway, and so on. It's
even
more dangerous if someone decides to go around.

Ever heard of a radio? If someone's going around, and you're close enough to
be in their way, then you're a) going to hear their calls on the radio,
and/or you're looking for traffic anyway.
Crash Lander


unless they dont have a radio
Daveb

DaveB wrote:

On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:52:17 GMT, "Crash Lander"
wrote:

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
I did find one page that
talked about an upwind entry into the crosswind, and it argued
that if you are
at pattern altitude, you aren't likely to meet other traffic, but
that seems
like an extraordinarily dangerous assumption given the variability
of climb
rates, runway lengths, departure points on the runway, and so on.
It's even
more dangerous if someone decides to go around.

Ever heard of a radio? If someone's going around, and you're close
enough to be in their way, then you're a) going to hear their calls
on the radio, and/or you're looking for traffic anyway.
Crash Lander


unless they dont have a radio
Daveb

Then if they don't have a radio, that's an even stronger argument that
they should be joining a standard pattern, so other traffic already in
the pattern will already be looking for traffic.

--
Oz Lander.
I'm not always right,
But I'm never wrong.

Oz Lander writes:

Then if they don't have a radio, that's an even stronger argument that
they should be joining a standard pattern, so other traffic already in
the pattern will already be looking for traffic.

Someone going around _is_ in the standard pattern, since the standard pattern
always includes the runway.

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Someone going around _is_ in the standard pattern, since the standard
pattern
always includes the runway.

What's your point? Standard procedure for a go around is full power, climb
to pattern altitude and step to the right of the runway so as not to inhibit
other users who may be taking off, and so you can see what is happening on
the runway.
Oz/Crash Lander

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:25:52 GMT, "Crash Lander"
wrote:

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
.. .
Someone going around _is_ in the standard pattern, since the standard
pattern
always includes the runway.

What's your point? Standard procedure for a go around is full power, climb
to pattern altitude and step to the right of the runway so as not to inhibit
other users who may be taking off, and so you can see what is happening on
the runway.
Oz/Crash Lander
Here it'd be straight out to pattern height and then a cross wind to
down wind unless you end up passing some one.



Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Is the step to the right something new? I might do that if the reason
for an aborted landing was someone taking the active when I was on a
mile final, but if I was on short final I'd climb straight ahead over
that traffic being pretty sure it wasn't going to catch up with me (of
course I'd notice if it was a hot airplane) , bend onto crosswind and
rejoin downwind considering other traffics' location.



On Feb 20, 4:18 pm, Roger wrote:
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:25:52 GMT, "Crash Lander"
wrote:

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
.. .
Someone going around _is_ in the standard pattern, since the standard
pattern
always includes the runway.

What's your point? Standard procedure for a go around is full power, climb
to pattern altitude and step to the right of the runway so as not to inhibit
other users who may be taking off, and so you can see what is happening on
the runway.
Oz/Crash Lander

Here it'd be straight out to pattern height and then a cross wind to
down wind unless you end up passing some one.



Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)www.rogerhalstead.com

"Tony" wrote in message
oups.com...
Is the step to the right something new? I might do that if the reason
for an aborted landing was someone taking the active when I was on a
mile final, but if I was on short final I'd climb straight ahead over
that traffic being pretty sure it wasn't going to catch up with me (of
course I'd notice if it was a hot airplane) , bend onto crosswind and
rejoin downwind considering other traffics' location.

Not sure how new it is, but it's what I was taught when I did go arounds
about 3 lessons ago. Maybe they are just teaching me best practice methods
and telling me it's the way it is to be done. Makes sense to be safe rather
than sorry though I guess.
Oz/Crash Lander