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Old March 2nd 07, 07:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning
Jay Beckman
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What is required as far as a formal equipment list for part 91 operations?
In reading 91.205 and listening to one instructor I know, I cannot
reconcile what he says with the FARs. He states that an aircraft must
have an equipment list. I cannot find an equipment list for the plane I
fly regularly. I see partial entries for "equipment list" on W&B forms in
the plane, but no formal equipment list showing all the arms/moments and
weights of all the items in the aircraft. I have seen examples of this
for various aircraft in the POH.


I fly an older AA5A and the POH is not even close to what I would call a
useful document for the airplane. It is very brief, contains errors and
contains self-contradictory information. I am not surprised to seem to be
missing a required document.

Is this a required document? If so, how can I recreate it or obtain a new
one? I was considering recreating from an account of the logs.

The manufacturer is no longer in business.

Any idea where I would find "equipment list" requirements in the regs?

thanks,
tim


Are you talking about trying create a "Minimum Equipment List" (MEL?) MELs
have to be FAA approved. Take a look at 91.213.

Our club aircraft have MELs and they list each item installed, how many are
installed and how many are required for dispatch. It also indicates whether
or not each item can be placarded "INOP" (or otherwise rendered un-usable)
by the pilot or if it needs the attention of a mechanic. These are things
that do not render the aircraft un-airworthy for a given condition (ie,
Rotating Beacon is not required for Day VFR, but it is for night flight (but
not if the strobes work...says our document.)

When you get down the list to the things required by 91.205, then you get a
solid column of "1 Installed - 1 Required" (or 2 in the case of Vaccuum
pumps...says our document.)

As for W/B, couldn't a shop help? Re-weigh and re-calculate arms?
(Claiming brute ignorance here...sorry.)

HTH,

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ








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Old March 2nd 07, 03:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning
Tim
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Default equipment list?

Jay Beckman wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
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What is required as far as a formal equipment list for part 91 operations?
In reading 91.205 and listening to one instructor I know, I cannot
reconcile what he says with the FARs. He states that an aircraft must
have an equipment list. I cannot find an equipment list for the plane I
fly regularly. I see partial entries for "equipment list" on W&B forms in
the plane, but no formal equipment list showing all the arms/moments and
weights of all the items in the aircraft. I have seen examples of this

for various aircraft in the POH.


I fly an older AA5A and the POH is not even close to what I would call a
useful document for the airplane. It is very brief, contains errors and
contains self-contradictory information. I am not surprised to seem to be
missing a required document.

Is this a required document? If so, how can I recreate it or obtain a new
one? I was considering recreating from an account of the logs.

The manufacturer is no longer in business.

Any idea where I would find "equipment list" requirements in the regs?

thanks,
tim



Are you talking about trying create a "Minimum Equipment List" (MEL?) MELs
have to be FAA approved. Take a look at 91.213.

Our club aircraft have MELs and they list each item installed, how many are
installed and how many are required for dispatch. It also indicates whether
or not each item can be placarded "INOP" (or otherwise rendered un-usable)
by the pilot or if it needs the attention of a mechanic. These are things
that do not render the aircraft un-airworthy for a given condition (ie,
Rotating Beacon is not required for Day VFR, but it is for night flight (but
not if the strobes work...says our document.)

When you get down the list to the things required by 91.205, then you get a
solid column of "1 Installed - 1 Required" (or 2 in the case of Vaccuum
pumps...says our document.)

As for W/B, couldn't a shop help? Re-weigh and re-calculate arms?
(Claiming brute ignorance here...sorry.)

HTH,

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ








No - I was not asking about the MEL. Rather just an "equipment list."
The article referred to by another poster is what i was looking for but
I have not found any other guidelines about what the format should be, etc.
 




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