Pilot Suicides

On Mar 7, 11:20 am, C J Campbell
wrote:
Student pilot Eric Johnson kills himself and his eight-year-old daughter by
slamming a plane into his former mother-in-law's house. The Indiana Star
notes that as a student pilot he was not allowed to carry passengers...
Apparently he practiced a few touch and goes before killing himself.

This seems to be getting to be a regular deal. Embry-Riddle instructors
killing themselves on the runway, other divorced pilots deliberately crashing
into houses, people jumping out of airplanes on final and landing on power
lines so that their severed torsos splat a few feet away from small children.

Ah yes. Suicide is such a beautiful, noble thing, according to some people.
This is a trend I would really like to see stop.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor


FBO owners should be held more directly responsible for who they rent
aircraft to. I think we will find that the aircraft dispatch
procedures were NOT adequate. Proper dispatch procedures might have
prevented this particular tragedy.

Unfortunately, the insurance company will end up paying for the FBOs
negligence and nobody will have learned anything.

"Deadstick" wrote in message
ps.com...
Unfortunately, the insurance company will end up paying
for the FBOs negligence and nobody will have learned anything.


When an FBO loses (crashes) a plane does their insurance go up like car
insurance does?

On Mar 7, 2:57 pm, "Tom Conner" wrote:
"Deadstick" wrote in message

ps.com...

Unfortunately, the insurance company will end up paying
for the FBOs negligence and nobody will have learned anything.

When an FBO loses (crashes) a plane does their insurance go up like car
insurance does?

Yes, very much. There is a pretty big discount for zero claims. After
the first big claim the rate goes up a lot. At some point the
insurance gets dropped. For an FBO getting insurance is often the
biggest challenge. Its much harder to get than owner's policies.

-Robert

On Mar 7, 5:46 pm, "Deadstick" wrote:

Proper dispatch procedures might have
prevented this particular tragedy.

IMHO, Proper dispatch procedures might have prevented the destruction
of a rented airplane. The tragedy, no. Someone who is bent on self-
destruction like he was will find a way.

GrtArtiste

On Mar 7, 2:46 pm, "Deadstick" wrote:
On Mar 7, 11:20 am, C J Campbell





wrote:
Student pilot Eric Johnson kills himself and his eight-year-old daughter by
slamming a plane into his former mother-in-law's house. The Indiana Star
notes that as a student pilot he was not allowed to carry passengers...
Apparently he practiced a few touch and goes before killing himself.

This seems to be getting to be a regular deal. Embry-Riddle instructors
killing themselves on the runway, other divorced pilots deliberately crashing
into houses, people jumping out of airplanes on final and landing on power
lines so that their severed torsos splat a few feet away from small children.

Ah yes. Suicide is such a beautiful, noble thing, according to some people.
This is a trend I would really like to see stop.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

FBO owners should be held more directly responsible for who they rent
aircraft to. I think we will find that the aircraft dispatch
procedures were NOT adequate. Proper dispatch procedures might have
prevented this particular tragedy.

Should all FBOs be required to hire people to work the desk 24x7? I
know some FBOs that assign card lock cards with a security code to
pilots. The computer doesn't know if a student pilot has someone
standing next to him.

-Robert

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
ps.com...
On Mar 7, 2:46 pm, "Deadstick" wrote:
Should all FBOs be required to hire people to work the desk 24x7? I
know some FBOs that assign card lock cards with a security code to
pilots. The computer doesn't know if a student pilot has someone
standing next to him.

-Robert

True, but a student pilot should not have those security codes.
Crash Lander

On Mar 7, 3:09 pm, "Crash Lander" wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in glegroups.com...

On Mar 7, 2:46 pm, "Deadstick" wrote:
Should all FBOs be required to hire people to work the desk 24x7? I
know some FBOs that assign card lock cards with a security code to
pilots. The computer doesn't know if a student pilot has someone
standing next to him.

-Robert

True, but a student pilot should not have those security codes.

Why not? I've been assigning the codes to my students as soon as they
are soloed.

-Robert

On 3/7/2007 5:46:27 PM, "Deadstick" wrote:

FBO owners should be held more directly responsible for who they rent
aircraft to. I think we will find that the aircraft dispatch
procedures were NOT adequate. Proper dispatch procedures might have
prevented this particular tragedy.

How can you possibly conclude that? Did you actually witness the transaction?

You have no idea how the deranged father handled this situation. I could
conjure up a couple of scenarios where it appeared I was alone to rent the
aircraft, but then quickly pass a smaller child past a busy FBO counter to a
waiting aircraft.

--
Peter

FBO owners should be held more directly responsible for who they rent
aircraft to.

Be careful what you ask for. The consequence of this is FBOs (like at
Westchester) that won't rent to you if it's cloudy.

Jose
--
Humans are pack animals. Above all things, they have a deep need to
follow something, be it a leader, a creed, or a mob. Whosoever fully
understands this holds the world in his hands.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Deadstick schrieb:

FBO owners should be held more directly responsible for who they rent
aircraft to.

Yeah! Sue them *******s!