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#1
March 17th 07, 11:33 PM
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Canals in Missouri?
"BT" wrote in message ... If I'm getting flight following... and the ATC controller recommends a divert around a HOT MOA.. and I refuse... I can expect his next transmission to be, "Roger, radar service terminated, squawk 1200, good day and good luck." Why do you expect that? 
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March 18th 07, 10:52 PM
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Canals in Missouri?
I have been on both sides of the mic. If a VFR aircraft chooses to proceed
through a HOT MOA and mix it up with fast fighters doing ACM (air combat maneuvers) and I am not controlling the fighters. He is on his own. BT "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message news  "BT" wrote in message ... If I'm getting flight following... and the ATC controller recommends a divert around a HOT MOA.. and I refuse... I can expect his next transmission to be, "Roger, radar service terminated, squawk 1200, good day and good luck." Why do you expect that?
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March 18th 07, 11:00 PM
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Canals in Missouri?
"BT" wrote in message ... I have been on both sides of the mic. If a VFR aircraft chooses to proceed through a HOT MOA and mix it up with fast fighters doing ACM (air combat maneuvers) and I am not controlling the fighters. He is on his own. Weak stick.
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March 19th 07, 12:33 AM
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Canals in Missouri?
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote Weak stick. How so? He was advised to go around, and chose not to. If it was a good idea to go through, he would not have suggested to go around. I would not fault a controller not wanting any part of a flight through a hot MOA. Are you saying that you would be happy to continue being responsible, as a controller, for a plane flying through a hot MOA? -- Jim in NC
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#5
March 23rd 07, 09:27 AM
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Canals in Missouri?
"Morgans" wrote in message ... How so? He was advised to go around, and chose not to. If it was a good idea to go through, he would not have suggested to go around. Not the pilot, "weak stick" refers to a poor controller. BT said he has been on both sides of the mic, and would terminate flight following for an aircraft that chose to go through a hot MOA. I would not fault a controller not wanting any part of a flight through a hot MOA. Are you saying that you would be happy to continue being responsible, as a controller, for a plane flying through a hot MOA? Been there, done that. But ATC is not responsible for separation between the using aircraft and VFR aircraft that choose to fly through a MOA. Flight following is simply traffic advisories.
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