Did I miss the Era of GA?

And you were dehydrated because you didn't drink enough water!
Several of us here continue to warn you, and you just won't listen to us.
Buy some piddle packs at the sporting goods store, carry an empty gallon
antifreeze jug, whatever you need, but start drinking water on those
long legs. :-))

I'll bet my 13 year old daughter would LOVE that...NOT.

We did carry water on this trip, and sipped from it occasionally. I
may have been mildly dehydrated, but I wasn't thirsty.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

There were years I skiied every week; there were years I golfed nearly
every day; this summer I may be flying the skies of New England when
the
weather is VFR and the winds are low.

The era of GA is just beginning.

Well said, Fred. As long as we can keep the damned gummint out of our
way, we Americans are still free to make our own "Era of GA"...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Tim writes:

Are you kidding me? Just because you don't think it is a good mode of
transportation does not mean it isn't so. Many people use it as a
hobby. Others use GA for transportation.

It's pretty to demonstrate its impracticality. I'm not sure why so many
pilots feel they must prove that their flying has practical value, and isn't
simply a hobby that they find enjoyable.

It's a bit like golfers trying to prove that their sport is better exercise
than a purpose-designed program.

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john smith writes:

And you were dehydrated because you didn't drink enough water!

Hypoxia is _far_ more likely to cause the symptoms described than dehydration.

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Jay Honeck writes:

We did carry water on this trip, and sipped from it occasionally. I
may have been mildly dehydrated, but I wasn't thirsty.

If you're not thirsty, you're not dehydrated.

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Tim writes:

There may be some in the community who feel more special because they
fly, but that is not the norm.

Perhaps the abnormal ones are strangely attracted ot USENET, then.

Actually, however, the USENET syndrome is not unique to pilots. It's much
more closely associated with IQ than occupation.

However, that has not been my experience. I think your view is skewed
because you feel ostracized by those whom you belittle and whom you
think you are better than because yo have 10000 hours in barons and 747s
and they have just a few hundred hours in old cessnas with old analog
radio tuners and no autopilots...

It makes no difference to me; I'm a veteran of USENET, and the chattering of a
few parrots causes me no stress.

What would you say to someone who said he knew Paris better than most
Parisians, yet had never been there.

I'd find it hard to believe based on the assertion alone, but it's certainly
possible that he might be right.

THis person watched videos of the Eifel tower, read about the Louvre,
ate french bread from the local bakery from his local town in the USA.
He/she also had "conversations" in french with his computer language
tutor program.

All of those would certain improve his knowledge of Paris, and there are
Parisians who would already know less than he if he were to do that.

He/she even took lessons in how to surrender and hold his/her hands
up so he/she would be more French.

I don't see the connection.

It is not hard to fly. Most people can learn to do it.

Agreed. The obstacles actually have nothing to do with flying per se.

Most people though have false notions that it is overly complicated, too
expensive or something that is too dangerous.

It is indeed very expensive, very time-consuming, and involves a tremendous
amount of red tape and many odd conditions. These are the many reasons why
there are not more pilots.

I've never met a pilot who wasn't thrilled to meet other pilots or who
disuaded others about learning to fly. On the contrary - all the
members of this "elitist club" (that you like to call it) usually go out
of their way to introduce others to the joy and fun of flying and will
mentor, give free flights, teach, talk about it or do anything else to
promote this passion of theirs.

Not so. They dislike simulation.

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Gene Seibel writes:

Either you want to fly or you don't. You decide.

Unfortunately, when confronted with an attitude like that, most people
immediately decide that they don't want to.

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Tim writes:


Are you kidding me? Just because you don't think it is a good mode of
transportation does not mean it isn't so. Many people use it as a
hobby. Others use GA for transportation.


It's pretty to demonstrate its impracticality. I'm not sure why so many
pilots feel they must prove that their flying has practical value, and isn't
simply a hobby that they find enjoyable.

It's a bit like golfers trying to prove that their sport is better exercise
than a purpose-designed program.



Many people demonstrate its practicality day after day. Most pilots
though who don't own their own planes cannot ever make it practical to
fly for transportation. THose of us who do own can make claims that it
does. Your opinion on the matter is moot since you have never been in a
GA aircraft and have probably never been to an uncontrolled airport nor
seen what operations are like at those airports.

Alaskan commerce and life as it exists today would not be able to
function without GA.

You don't know what you are talking about.

Mxsmanic wrote:
Jay Honeck writes:


We did carry water on this trip, and sipped from it occasionally. I
may have been mildly dehydrated, but I wasn't thirsty.


If you're not thirsty, you're not dehydrated.


Are you a doctor or a sports physiologist? Where did you get that load
of crap?

Mxsmanic wrote:
He/she even took lessons in how to surrender and hold his/her hands
up so he/she would be more French.


I don't see the connection.

I guess your humor skills are lacking.




Most people though have false notions that it is overly complicated, too
expensive or something that is too dangerous.


It is indeed very expensive, very time-consuming, and involves a tremendous
amount of red tape and many odd conditions. These are the many reasons why
there are not more pilots.

It is no more expensive that other hobbies or activities. It takes
about 70 hours of flight training to get a private pilot certificate.
If one triples that number to add ground school and flight time we get
280 hours total for study and flight time. That does not seem like an
inordinate amount of time to spend over the course of a year -
especially if one were to say, fly 2 hours per weekend and study an hour
per night reading. How much time do you spend sitting at your
computer reading newsgroups and playing games? Most people can fit it
into their schedule. It is a matter of priorities.

As for expense - again, it is a matter of priorities. If one forgoes
new/leased cars and instead takes flying lessons it is quite accessible.



I've never met a pilot who wasn't thrilled to meet other pilots or who
disuaded others about learning to fly. On the contrary - all the
members of this "elitist club" (that you like to call it) usually go out
of their way to introduce others to the joy and fun of flying and will
mentor, give free flights, teach, talk about it or do anything else to
promote this passion of theirs.


Not so. They dislike simulation.

I see no correlation between simulation and real flying. I think your
experience is unique. Perhaps the reluctance of real pilots to welcome
you has little to do with your chosen way to spend time (simming/gaming)
than it is your clear and often rudely stated discussions about how GA
is useless and the pilots of GA aircraft are stupid, ignorant, filthy
rich, macho/testosterone filled babies with huge egos.

Most pilots I have met do not match the view you have of them.