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Old March 27th 07, 01:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Jon Kraus
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Default Speaking of Fuel Ripoffs...

Got a fuel bill from our FBO (KUMP Indianapolis Metro) the other day.
Not only do they charge one of the highest fuel prices around, they also
charge 6% Indiana sales tax on top of the 1% Indianapolis Airport
Authority surcharge (because they can).

When I called to inquire about charging 6% sales tax on the fuel they
just said "that is how we've done it for 20 years and everyone else does
it like that too." I've never had a sales tax added on top of the fuel
price before.

I thought that all the taxes we included in the price of the fuel?
Anyone else ever experience this?

Jon
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Old March 27th 07, 02:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Cary
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On Mar 27, 7:00 am, Jon Kraus wrote:
Got a fuel bill from our FBO (KUMP Indianapolis Metro) the other day.
Not only do they charge one of the highest fuel prices around, they also
charge 6% Indiana sales tax on top of the 1% Indianapolis Airport
Authority surcharge (because they can).

When I called to inquire about charging 6% sales tax on the fuel they
just said "that is how we've done it for 20 years and everyone else does
it like that too." I've never had a sales tax added on top of the fuel
price before.

I thought that all the taxes we included in the price of the fuel?
Anyone else ever experience this?

Jon


I have been to many places around the country in which the local sales
tax was not included in the fuel price but added on to the price of
the fuel. I think it just depends upon how the FBO wants to display
the cost of fuel. It may be a local custom to add the local sales tax
at FBOs around Indianapolis.

Cary

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Old March 27th 07, 03:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Roger[_4_]
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 08:00:01 -0400, Jon Kraus
wrote:

Got a fuel bill from our FBO (KUMP Indianapolis Metro) the other day.
Not only do they charge one of the highest fuel prices around, they also
charge 6% Indiana sales tax on top of the 1% Indianapolis Airport
Authority surcharge (because they can).

When I called to inquire about charging 6% sales tax on the fuel they
just said "that is how we've done it for 20 years and everyone else does
it like that too." I've never had a sales tax added on top of the fuel
price before.

I thought that all the taxes we included in the price of the fuel?
Anyone else ever experience this?


I stopped overnight at Topeka. Gas prices looked pretty good, until I
got the bill. They added all taxes on to the pump price. I purchased
at Salina on the way back and like Michigan their pump prices included
all taxes. We have sales tax on about everything.


Jon

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Old March 27th 07, 08:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Jay Honeck
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They added all taxes on to the pump price.

I understand your frustration, but I truly wish EVERYONE would start
listing their prices separate from the government's price. We do it
that way in the hotel business, and it often startles people to
discover how much extra they are forced to pay for...nothing.

For example: Our price for a 1-bedroom whirlpool aviation theme suite,
with a full kitchen and delivered breakfast, is quoted as $99.95 --
NOT the $111.95 we are forced to charge our guests so that our gummint
doesn't have to do the extorting themselves.

Yes, boys and girls, that's an extra 12% larded on to your hotel
room. Suck it in and enjoy it. (And they're talking about increasing
it.)

Only when EVERYONE starts highlighting the rip-off by listing the
prices separately will we be able to stop our insane, insatiable
juggernaut of a gummint.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old March 27th 07, 09:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Steve Foley
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...

For example: Our price for a 1-bedroom whirlpool aviation theme suite,
with a full kitchen and delivered breakfast, is quoted as $99.95 --
NOT the $111.95 we are forced to charge our guests so that our gummint
doesn't have to do the extorting themselves.


I sure hope you let these folks know about sometime before checkout time.

I'd be pretty annoyed if the 'quoted' price was not the 'charged' price.


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Old March 28th 07, 03:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Jay Honeck
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For example: Our price for a 1-bedroom whirlpool aviation theme suite,
with a full kitchen and delivered breakfast, is quoted as $99.95 --
NOT the $111.95 we are forced to charge our guests so that our gummint
doesn't have to do the extorting themselves.


I sure hope you let these folks know about sometime before checkout time.


Oh, sure. In fact, we let them know the total including tax while
they're on the phone making the reservation, since we have to
preauthorize their credit card before they have a reservation.

By the way -- all hotel prices are quoted this way. Go to Travelocity
or Orbitz, and every hotel's prices are listed this way, thankfully.
I'll be damned if I'm gonna pay to post the government's extortion on
my advertisements. I sure don't ever see a nickel of it.

My real price, followed by a small "plus tax", used to say it all.
Now that the politicians have pushed that tax up to absurd levels --
12% -- however, that little "plus tax" can truly come as a rude
surprise.

And you can bet that I tell every one of my guests what I think of it,
at every opportunity.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old March 28th 07, 03:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Gig 601XL Builder
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Jay Honeck wrote:

I'll be damned if I'm gonna pay to post the government's extortion on
my advertisements. I sure don't ever see a nickel of it.


Really, in Arkansas we used to get a 2% discount off the sales tax when paid
on time as a sort of collection fee. I don't know if they still do it. The
business I'm in now doesn't collect or pay sales tax. There was at least
talk of doing away with it a couple of years ago. It wasn't all that much
money for a small retailer like I was at the time. But can you imagian how
much somebody like Wal-Mart got discounted?


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Old March 28th 07, 03:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
John Theune
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Jay Honeck wrote:
For example: Our price for a 1-bedroom whirlpool aviation theme suite,
with a full kitchen and delivered breakfast, is quoted as $99.95 --
NOT the $111.95 we are forced to charge our guests so that our gummint
doesn't have to do the extorting themselves.

I sure hope you let these folks know about sometime before checkout time.


Oh, sure. In fact, we let them know the total including tax while
they're on the phone making the reservation, since we have to
preauthorize their credit card before they have a reservation.

By the way -- all hotel prices are quoted this way. Go to Travelocity
or Orbitz, and every hotel's prices are listed this way, thankfully.
I'll be damned if I'm gonna pay to post the government's extortion on
my advertisements. I sure don't ever see a nickel of it.

My real price, followed by a small "plus tax", used to say it all.
Now that the politicians have pushed that tax up to absurd levels --
12% -- however, that little "plus tax" can truly come as a rude
surprise.

And you can bet that I tell every one of my guests what I think of it,
at every opportunity.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

12% is not as bad as it gets, I've seen places where it's closer to 20%
when you throw in city, county and state taxes. In the county I live in
to play golf you have to pay sales tax 5% and a 12% entertainment tax to
play at a local muni course and we are not a golf destination.
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Old March 28th 07, 08:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Blanche
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John Theune wrote:
12% is not as bad as it gets, I've seen places where it's closer to 20%
when you throw in city, county and state taxes. In the county I live in
to play golf you have to pay sales tax 5% and a 12% entertainment tax to
play at a local muni course and we are not a golf destination.


I'll see your golf tax and raise you....tax on a speeding ticket!

Yup, in Colorado (at least in the Front Range counties), you pay
sales tax when you pay the fine for a speeding ticket.

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Old March 29th 07, 01:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Eduardo K.
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In article lMuOh.2180$Rp2.1203@trndny04,
John Theune wrote:

12% is not as bad as it gets, I've seen places where it's closer to 20%
when you throw in city, county and state taxes. In the county I live in
to play golf you have to pay sales tax 5% and a 12% entertainment tax to
play at a local muni course and we are not a golf destination.



places like this country... 19%

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