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Old September 11th 03, 07:11 PM
Rich S.
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"Jay" wrote in message
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What about that tide powered generator idea. Use the force of the
moon's gravitational field to lift water. At low tide, release the
water through turbines and generate some electricity. Although if you
did this enough, the moon would eventually become one with the earth.
=^(


And........ What will happen if you don't do it?

Rich "The Sky is falling!" S.


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Old September 11th 03, 11:58 PM
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In article , "Rich S."
writes:

What about that tide powered generator idea. Use the force of the
moon's gravitational field to lift water. At low tide, release the
water through turbines and generate some electricity. Although if you
did this enough, the moon would eventually become one with the earth.
=^(


And........ What will happen if you don't do it?



I can't remember the location but tidal power is currently being used to
generate electricty. It would seem to be more dependable for the long haul
than wind or solar since you can predict the tides with great accuracy.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

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Old September 12th 03, 01:25 AM
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Generating electricity from wind and tides is neat since electricity can be
converted into other forms of energy easily. However, generation and
conversion comes with losses. Sometimes it's worth looking beyond
electricity to see what it is to be used for.

For example, an acquaintance of mine has a workshop located at the end of a
long REA powerline that cannot power big electric power tools. So, he uses
air driven shop tools. Where does he get the compressed air? He built a
windmill that drives a big air compressor. The compressed air is stored in
large tanks until he needs it.

Another acquaintance heats his remote ranch house with a windmill that
churns water to heat it. He also gets heat from solar water heaters.

Ingenuity triumphs again.

Bill Daniels


"RobertR237" wrote in message
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In article , "Rich S."
writes:

What about that tide powered generator idea. Use the force of the
moon's gravitational field to lift water. At low tide, release the
water through turbines and generate some electricity. Although if you
did this enough, the moon would eventually become one with the earth.
=^(


And........ What will happen if you don't do it?



I can't remember the location but tidal power is currently being used to
generate electricty. It would seem to be more dependable for the long

haul
than wind or solar since you can predict the tides with great accuracy.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)


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Old September 12th 03, 02:12 AM
Morgans
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"Bill Daniels" wrote in message
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Generating electricity from wind and tides is neat since electricity can

be
converted into other forms of energy easily. However, generation and
conversion comes with losses. Sometimes it's worth looking beyond
electricity to see what it is to be used for.

For example, an acquaintance of mine has a workshop located at the end of

a
long REA powerline that cannot power big electric power tools. So, he

uses
air driven shop tools. Where does he get the compressed air? He built a
windmill that drives a big air compressor. The compressed air is stored

in
large tanks until he needs it.

Another acquaintance heats his remote ranch house with a windmill that
churns water to heat it. He also gets heat from solar water heaters.

Ingenuity triumphs again.

Bill Daniels


That sounds interesting. What voltage does he have there?

Churning water for heat? That would take one hell of a lot of churning!
Tell us more specifics!
--
Jim in NC


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Old September 12th 03, 02:52 AM
Bill Daniels
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"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Bill Daniels" wrote in message
ink.net...
Generating electricity from wind and tides is neat since electricity can

be
converted into other forms of energy easily. However, generation and
conversion comes with losses. Sometimes it's worth looking beyond
electricity to see what it is to be used for.

For example, an acquaintance of mine has a workshop located at the end

of
a
long REA powerline that cannot power big electric power tools. So, he

uses
air driven shop tools. Where does he get the compressed air? He built

a
windmill that drives a big air compressor. The compressed air is stored

in
large tanks until he needs it.

Another acquaintance heats his remote ranch house with a windmill that
churns water to heat it. He also gets heat from solar water heaters.

Ingenuity triumphs again.

Bill Daniels


That sounds interesting. What voltage does he have there?


Don't know the voltage but it is supposed to be an old REA line installed in
the 1940's. Probably only intended for a few electric lights and maybe a
radio.

Churning water for heat? That would take one hell of a lot of churning!
Tell us more specifics!
--

All the mechanical energy from the windmill goes into heat - one way or
another. It's basically just a dynamometer that absorbs the power output of
the windmill. The windmill runs 24x7 and the hot water is stored in an
insulated underground tank. It's a pretty efficient conversion if the
churn is well designed. Mostly just a barrel with paddles and stators made
of steel.

Bill Daniels

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Old September 12th 03, 02:50 AM
Ida Covey
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Nova Scotia, just north of Annapolis Royale, on the bay of Fundy, where
tides are in the 40 foot range.

BJC

"RobertR237" wrote in message
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In article , "Rich S."
writes:

What about that tide powered generator idea. Use the force of the
moon's gravitational field to lift water. At low tide, release the
water through turbines and generate some electricity. Although if you
did this enough, the moon would eventually become one with the earth.
=^(


And........ What will happen if you don't do it?



I can't remember the location but tidal power is currently being used to
generate electricty. It would seem to be more dependable for the long

haul
than wind or solar since you can predict the tides with great accuracy.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)



 




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