DG-300/303 owners...

On Apr 18, 6:30 pm, Steve Davis
wrote:
.. With the current 'fix'
from DG I suspect a lot of them will just sit in
trailers not getting flown, or bought.


Steve, this all came out about ten days ago. Last weekend at the field
there was quite a bit of chatter about it, and I had to answer a lot
of questions about how I was planning on dealing with my 303. And the
answer is, I'm so happy with the glider I just don't really care.
Andreas is correct, this will not affect me until I decide to sell it,
and that is some years down the line. The focus in this thread is on
how to fix the problem; my interest is on how to test at the lowest
cost. Let's say 50% of the gliders are affected, that means that the
cost to fix half the gliders is exactly nothing. While the testing
process is being worked out I'll be flying, and having fun.

As it happens, I have the last plane (DG303 # 486) ever made by ELAN,
and the 27th ACRO. It will be interesting to look back on this in a
year or two.

brianDG303 wrote:

As it happens, I have the last plane (DG303 # 486) ever made by ELAN,
and the 27th ACRO. It will be interesting to look back on this in a
year or two.

Who made the final 25 units, and what is the source of this information?


Jack

Jack wrote:
brianDG303 wrote:

As it happens, I have the last plane (DG303 # 486) ever made by ELAN,
and the 27th ACRO. It will be interesting to look back on this in a
year or two.

Who made the final 25 units, and what is the source of this information?

AMS Flight made the last 25, after they bought out ELAN's aircraft
business and bought the production rights from DG Flugzeugbau...

Marc

Marc Ramsey wrote:

AMS Flight made the last 25, after they bought out ELAN's aircraft
business and bought the production rights from DG Flugzeugbau...

And they continued the defective construction techniques,
in the same facility, probably using the same personnel?

No wonder they are staying silent.


Jack

Jack wrote:
Marc Ramsey wrote:

AMS Flight made the last 25, after they bought out ELAN's aircraft
business and bought the production rights from DG Flugzeugbau...

And they continued the defective construction techniques,
in the same facility, probably using the same personnel?

No wonder they are staying silent.

They haven't been silent, see the second item posted at:

http://www.ams-flight.si/

Marc

Marc Ramsey wrote:

[AMS-Flight] haven't been silent, see the second item posted at:

http://www.ams-flight.si/

Thanks.

After reading that one wonders is there no one available to AMS who
can translate German to English more clearly?

As a relative newcomer to soaring it surprises me how much of a
garage-level industry is the production of sailplanes which cost so
dearly. To think that AMS could not be bothered to keep production
records which recorded changes in their processes is shocking.

"Amateurish" does not begin to cover it.


Jack

Jack wrote:
After reading that one wonders is there no one available to AMS who can
translate German to English more clearly?

I wouldn't expect anyone there to do a particularly good job translating
German to English, any more than I would expect someone in the US to do
a good job of translating German to Slovenian.

As a relative newcomer to soaring it surprises me how much of a
garage-level industry is the production of sailplanes which cost so
dearly. To think that AMS could not be bothered to keep production
records which recorded changes in their processes is shocking.

"Amateurish" does not begin to cover it.

Glaser-Dirks was pretty clearly responsible for establishing the
inspection protocols and record keeping requirements. Apparently they
didn't consider this part of the manufacturing process important enough
to monitor. Why would Elan or AMS keep record of something that
Glaser-Dirks didn't request?

Marc