![]() |
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
#1
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
I doubt that you stay liable through bankruptcy.
DG is not Glazer-Dirks nor is it Rolladin-Schneider and when DG bought the assets of those bankrupt companies it didn't buy the liability of them. The liabilities, debts to suppliers, warranties, shareholders rights, employee compensation issues, etc... all were disposed of by the bankruptcy court. By buying the company name, assets and tooling etc...DG got the goodwill of the customer base and may have taken on the obligation to monitor the status of legacy product but it did not take on an obligation to provide free repair. Also, they seem to believe that the third option, the wings are strong enough with reduced operating limits is sufficient. Bob K. mentioned 'Hmmm... I wonder who that 'someone' might be. Whoever they are, they're pretty brave to get wrapped up in this mess.' This could also be applied to DG. If they specify an inspection and repair procedure for this mess does it imply that they are accepting some liability for payment and warranty if someone other than DG does the work? At 03:06 21 April 2007, Mart wrote: I read the report on the DG website and it all looks very nice except the last words; end of discussion. That rubs me the wrong way. As far as I know this is not a warranty issue but a building mistake and I think you stay liable for that, no time expire. It seems to me that some business will have an insurance to cover the loss for the pilots. I was at the Elan factory a number of years ago. They were building there the very first DG 1000. So there was defenitely a close business contact. If DG would have to pay they might go bankrupt.Due the previous bankrupty they might not be liable anyway. But Elan is a very big ski-factory. The gliders were made on the same terrain,behind the same fence. After seeing the gliders build I saw them build ski's by the 1000's. There is money there to compensate or fix the gliders. I think all the 300/303 pilots should put $100 in an account and have somebody find out who is liable. -- mart |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
I too believe the restrictions on the 300 will scarcely be noticed by
the average pilot, but if someone is concerened (acro) their ship can easily be proof-loaded to 5.3 G's. Stan Hall wrote a good paper on just how to go about it, published in Soaring. Basically you mount the wing inverted on a sturdy test stand, secure it so it won't twist and then sand-bag that puppy to the flight limits, usually 5.3 G's. Then you know the wing is stong enough for anything it should see in flight if the ship is flown within the flight envelope. JJ |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
I was not able to follow the explaination, but in the original post at
DG they seem to say the wing that was tested (and was bad) failed at just over 9.0 G's, but they want a safety factor of 1.5 which is 9.64 G's. I could have this wrong though. However, it seems in line with the actually very modest restrictions, other than Acro, and only 35 or 37 Acro's were built. Something I've always wondered is just exactly what made an Acro other than the foot straps, the G meter, and the decal. Whatever it is it doesn't seem to weigh anything. On Apr 21, 5:34 am, JJ Sinclair wrote: I too believe the restrictions on the 300 will scarcely be noticed by the average pilot, but if someone is concerened (acro) their ship can easily be proof-loaded to 5.3 G's. Stan Hall wrote a good paper on just how to go about it, published in Soaring. Basically you mount the wing inverted on a sturdy test stand, secure it so it won't twist and then sand-bag that puppy to the flight limits, usually 5.3 G's. Then you know the wing is stong enough for anything it should see in flight if the ship is flown within the flight envelope. JJ |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
brianDG303 wrote:
Something I've always wondered is just exactly what made an Acro other than the foot straps, the G meter, and the decal. Whatever it is it doesn't seem to weigh anything. When I bought mine I was told that the structural changes consisted of a slightly beefed up tail boom... Marc |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Beech Duke Owners/ex-Owners ple help... | Stanley | Owning | 12 | June 10th 16 12:36 AM |
DG-300/303 owners... | Marc Ramsey | Soaring | 34 | April 22nd 07 05:07 AM |
SHK Owners | [email protected] | Soaring | 1 | February 7th 06 06:37 PM |
R22 owners please help with AD 2004-06-52 | rotortrash | Rotorcraft | 20 | April 28th 04 04:33 PM |
Any UH-1 owners in here? | Jim | Rotorcraft | 7 | October 6th 03 02:33 AM |