newsserver access

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 13:38:01 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote:

[...]
I hope it makes those who post through Google-Groups stop supporting
that source of Usenet spam.

.. but after 1 week now I come to the conclusion that the level of pain
must still be too low. No one - up to now - was interested in this free
offer for usenet access. hmmm.

Those users who choose to use GoogleGroups to access Usenet are
probably intimidated by the necessity to reconfigure their news reader
client software, and there's always the religious devotion to what
they have already learned, and the resistance to change...

.... and it comes with a nice webinterface, too.

I guess it's still September. :-(

yup.

btw: we are also close to the solution for a filter for an unnamed poster
here. This *beep* *censored* §$&%"$§cleanfeed!"§§%&%§!! ;-)

#m

While I understand the desire to filter out noise, I personally prefer
the egalitarian aspect of Usenet be preserved, and the temptation of
censorship be resisted.

the line of censorship is very hard to draw.
see he
http://news.hotze.com/stats/news-notice.2007.04.20-04.02.04.html#innd_perl
in the last 24 hours we (automatically!) filtered more than 30.000 posts.
Should we not filter out all the *obvious* crap?

And 'the one' is a PI*my*A, and I don't want him wasting bytes on *my*
server. ;-)

Perhaps that "cleanfeed" could be made a user
configurable option, so people have a choice of a censored feed or
not.

well, someone has to do it (costs time/money). And usenet is nothing to
make money off (at least if you're not giganews or a similar big company).
As an ISP you offer it because you believe that it is part of full access
to Internet. Or you don't offer it.

Perhaps posting explicit instructions on how to obtain a Usenet/nntp
feed and using capital letters to spell out the word F R E E would
help wean folks away from supporting GoogleGroups. Just a thought....

I don't want to spam the group with that. It isn't worth that much noise.
People wanting and searching a solution are offered a solution - and they
will find out (sooner or later).

I applaud your philanthropic effort to lead them to water.

Well, mostly I did it because I want to use it myself. I can also VPN to my
network and connect to my newsserver, but hey! There are different ways to
Rome :-)

#m
--
I am not a terrorist. http://www.casualdisobedience.com/

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 16:14:34 +0200, Martin Hotze
wrote in :

in the last 24 hours we (automatically!) filtered more than 30.000 posts.
Should we not filter out all the *obvious* crap?

In the old days of B News, before nntp, Usenet sites that injected
spam articles would find their downstream news neighbors removing
their ability to inject news articles into the stream. Each Usenet
News Administrator was accountable to his news-neighbors for the
content authored on his site, and if he failed to police his users,
his feed was cut off. This personal accountability insured that
spamming Usenet was not a viable option. Alas, today ...

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:48:11 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote:

This personal accountability insured that
spamming Usenet was not a viable option. Alas, today ...

.... today Google won't be what it is today.
But they made about $1 billion in Q1.

I share your sentiments, though.

#m
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I am not a terrorist. http://www.casualdisobedience.com/

... today Google won't be what it is today.

What? Things are more like they are today than they've ever been
before. But that's gotta change!

Jose
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