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On Fri, 25 May 2007 15:22:00 GMT, John Theune
wrote: Kingfish wrote: Interesting article here on the arbitration case between Singapore Airlines and its pilots. The court ruled SIA must pay A380 captains more than 747 captains. Duh? If it's bigger, heavier and has more seats that should be a no-brainer IMHO, unless of course the airline is trying to contain labor costs. I was amazed to see their monthly base pay of $10k for 747 captains. $120k/yr to fly a 747? Even allowing for per diem and other stuff, SWA's 737 captains make a lot more than that... http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...paid-more.html Pay is always based on the location of the job. Software engineers in the US make 75K but in Bangalore they make 5K. Why would it be They took a pay cut? My late cousin was making considerably more than that 10 years ago. That too depended on what you were doing and where. I understood that a lot of pilots flying the "big iron" have taken some serious pay cuts in the past few years. different for pilots? |
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On May 27, 8:13 pm, "Roger (K8RI)" wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2007 15:22:00 GMT, John Theune wrote: Kingfish wrote: Interesting article here on the arbitration case between Singapore Airlines and its pilots. The court ruled SIA must pay A380 captains more than 747 captains. Duh? If it's bigger, heavier and has more seats that should be a no-brainer IMHO, unless of course the airline is trying to contain labor costs. I was amazed to see their monthly base pay of $10k for 747 captains. $120k/yr to fly a 747? Even allowing for per diem and other stuff, SWA's 737 captains make a lot more than that... http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...court-rules-si... Pay is always based on the location of the job. Software engineers in the US make 75K but in Bangalore they make 5K. Why would it be They took a pay cut? My late cousin was making considerably more than that 10 years ago. That too depended on what you were doing and where. I understood that a lot of pilots flying the "big iron" have taken some serious pay cuts in the past few years. Software engineers who are still using skills from 1995 are probably making 75K. If you aren't attending conferences (like Java One, etc) and going to training at least once a year you can't expect to make much more. -Robert |
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Robert M. Gary writes:
Software engineers who are still using skills from 1995 are probably making 75K. If you aren't attending conferences (like Java One, etc) and going to training at least once a year you can't expect to make much more. Conferences and training are just ways to make money from the naïve. |
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On May 30, 2:09 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Conferences and training are just ways to make money from the naïve. Interesting statement. Perhaps you could tell us how this philosophy has helped your own career in IT? |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: Robert M. Gary writes: Software engineers who are still using skills from 1995 are probably making 75K. If you aren't attending conferences (like Java One, etc) and going to training at least once a year you can't expect to make much more. Conferences and training are just ways to make money from the naïve. Yeah, all the money they wasted training me to fly is obviously a waste.. Fjukkktard. Bertie |
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On May 30, 11:09 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Robert M. Gary writes: Software engineers who are still using skills from 1995 are probably making 75K. If you aren't attending conferences (like Java One, etc) and going to training at least once a year you can't expect to make much more. Conferences and training are just ways to make money from the naïve. Sounds like someone can't afford the $5000 for the conference pass and is a bit bitter about it. If you are working in IT you can expense it so I don't care what it costs. If you think for a second that having recent conferences and training on your resume doesn't make a difference you are in a way different world than the rest of us. Bottom line, I'm easily making 6 figures and have enough money in the bank that the 5% etrade savings account pays me comes out to more than you said you make a year. So, you can argue with me if you want but I'm out here making money and you're at home bitching. -Robert |
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
you said you make a year. So, you can argue with me if you want but I'm out here making money and you're at home bitching. tsst tsst. You are spoiling a perfectly entertaining usenet discussion by injecting facts and an unhealthy dose of reality. :-) --Sylvain |
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On 29 May 2007 16:03:55 -0700, "Robert M. Gary"
wrote: On May 27, 8:13 pm, "Roger (K8RI)" wrote: On Fri, 25 May 2007 15:22:00 GMT, John Theune wrote: Kingfish wrote: Interesting article here on the arbitration case between Singapore Airlines and its pilots. The court ruled SIA must pay A380 captains more than 747 captains. Duh? If it's bigger, heavier and has more seats that should be a no-brainer IMHO, unless of course the airline is trying to contain labor costs. I was amazed to see their monthly base pay of $10k for 747 captains. $120k/yr to fly a 747? Even allowing for per diem and other stuff, SWA's 737 captains make a lot more than that... http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...court-rules-si... Pay is always based on the location of the job. Software engineers in the US make 75K but in Bangalore they make 5K. Why would it be They took a pay cut? My late cousin was making considerably more than that 10 years ago. That too depended on what you were doing and where. I understood that a lot of pilots flying the "big iron" have taken some serious pay cuts in the past few years. Software engineers who are still using skills from 1995 are probably making 75K. If you aren't attending conferences (like Java One, etc) and going to training at least once a year you can't expect to make much more. That pretty much stands to reason and isn't just true in the software business. My point is we were making more than that back then and if keeping up I'd expect to be making much more. However, I'm retired and making much less at least as far as my pension goes. -Robert |
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