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VFR "picking his way thru" heavy cells with XM Radio weather



 
 
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Old June 4th 07, 06:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 12:21:35 -0400, "Peter R."
wrote in :

[Story of cluelessly inept pilot narrowly escaping disaster snipped]

Did you happen to note the aircraft's N number?

Someone should relate this incident to the appropriate FSDO office
before the tapes are wiped, so that the pilot can benefit from some
badly needed remedial WX training before his bumbling casts yet more
negative public opinion on GA, and saddens his friends and family.

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Old June 4th 07, 07:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter R.
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Default VFR "picking his way thru" heavy cells with XM Radio weather

On 6/4/2007 1:30:51 PM, Larry Dighera wrote:

Did you happen to note the aircraft's N number?

Someone should relate this incident to the appropriate FSDO office
before the tapes are wiped,


Not only do I have the tail-id but I also have the exact exchange, thanks to
LiveATC.net's 40-day archive. However, Larry, I am not going to be the one to
report anyone, since IMO this is quite a gray area. I personally have a very
different take on reporting pilots to the FAA.

For education purposes, though, I thought it might be beneficial to retrieve
and edit the archive files into a short clip (and also removing the majority
of the tail ID so the resulting clip cannot be used against the pilot) with
the relevant content. When I have the clip, I will post it to a file sharing
site and the link to this thread.

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Old June 4th 07, 07:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steve Foley
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Default VFR "picking his way thru" heavy cells with XM Radio weather

"Peter R." wrote in message
...

However, Larry, I am not going to be the one to
report anyone, since IMO this is quite a gray area. I personally have a
very
different take on reporting pilots to the FAA.


How about filing a NASA form? Isn't that exactly what they were designed
for?


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Old June 4th 07, 09:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter R.
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Default VFR "picking his way thru" heavy cells with XM Radio weather

On 6/4/2007 2:06:25 PM, "Steve Foley" wrote:

How about filing a NASA form? Isn't that exactly what they were designed
for?


Having only the audio side and being a third party bystander to this moment,
I am not sure I really have the proper perspective to be able to accurately
do so.

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Old June 4th 07, 09:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose
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Default VFR "picking his way thru" heavy cells with XM Radio weather

Having only the audio side and being a third party bystander to this moment,
I am not sure I really have the proper perspective to be able to accurately
do so.


I presume that those reading the form will figure out whether it is
worth pursuing. If they pursue it (to gather more information, for
example), they will have a better perspective.

Jose
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Old June 4th 07, 11:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default VFR "picking his way thru" heavy cells with XM Radio weather


"Peter R." wrote

Having only the audio side and being a third party bystander to this
moment,
I am not sure I really have the proper perspective to be able to
accurately
do so.


Right. It sounds like he was using some bad judgment, but there are no
AIM's against that.

Nobody but him knows if he was still in legal VFC. My guess would be that
he was in the clear, looking at the cells out the window, and at the XM to
try and predict where the cells were moving.
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Old June 4th 07, 09:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter R.
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Default VFR "picking his way thru" heavy cells with XM Radio weather

On 6/4/2007 2:03:50 PM, "Peter R." wrote:

For education purposes, though, I thought it might be beneficial to
retrieve and edit the archive files into a short clip (and also removing
the majority of the tail ID so the resulting clip cannot be used against
the pilot) with the relevant content. When I have the clip, I will post it
to a file sharing site and the link to this thread.


Here's the clip. I uploaded it to a free file hosting site and then attempted
to copy the direct download link, bypassing the annoying
wait-30-seconds-to-read-the-ads page. If the download doesn't work, let me
know and I will upload it to a different location:

I have edited the clip by removing non-essential communications and removing
dead air. The clip is about 3.1 Mb and approx. 4 minutes long.

http://download2-6.files-upload.com/.../XMweather.mp3

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Peter
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Old June 4th 07, 10:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Scott Skylane
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Default VFR "picking his way thru" heavy cells with XM Radio weather

Peter R. wrote:


Here's the clip. I uploaded it to a free file hosting site and then attempted
to copy the direct download link, bypassing the annoying
wait-30-seconds-to-read-the-ads page. If the download doesn't work, let me
know and I will upload it to a different location:

/snip/
http://download2-6.files-upload.com/.../XMweather.mp3


"The page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable.
Please try again later."
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Old June 4th 07, 10:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter R.
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Default VFR "picking his way thru" heavy cells with XM Radio weather

On 6/4/2007 5:18:31 PM, Scott Skylane wrote:

Peter R. wrote:


Here's the clip. I uploaded it to a free file hosting site and then attempted
to copy the direct download link, bypassing the annoying
wait-30-seconds-to-read-the-ads page. If the download doesn't work, let me
know and I will upload it to a different location:

/snip/
http://download2-6.files-upload.com/.../XMweather.mp3


"The page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable.
Please try again later."


OK, disregard that link. I don't want to put you through the 30 second wait
time to read all the ads. Instead I resurrected my web space that used to
house my website. For the time being it is my free file host. Here's the
file:

http://thericcs.net/files/XMweather.mp3

I really need to put up some flying pages. That would be a good use of the
site.

--
Peter
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Old June 4th 07, 10:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default VFR "picking his way thru" heavy cells with XM Radio weather

On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 16:11:53 -0400, "Peter R."
wrote in :


http://download2-6.files-upload.com/.../XMweather.mp3


This link doesn't work for me.
 




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