Should I upgrade from Skylane to Cirrus SR20? (not mxmaniac infested)

I would also agree that going from a C182 to am SR20 would be a
downgrade. The SR20 is much more comparable to a C172 with the
exception of speed. As far as utility goes, the C182 is unbeatable in
that class. Look at weight, weight & balance issues, short field take
off and landing distances, winter operation, rough airfield operation,
etc. etc.
Be very careful about your view of the parachute. Cirrus airplanes do
not have a better safety record than other airplanes. Two main
reasons, a) parachute equipped airplane pilots tend to assume greater
risk ("all I have to do is to pull the handle") and b) it is a very
difficult decision to actually pull the handle and many pilots so far
in Cirrus airplanes have not pulled it when they should have.

Gerd
ATP, based in CZBA

"gwengler" wrote in message
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As far as utility goes, the C182 is unbeatable in
that class. Look at weight, weight & balance issues, short field take
off and landing distances, winter operation, rough airfield operation,
etc. etc.

Two friends of mine got stranded by weather on their way back from Oshkosh a
couple years back. They rented an Expedition to drive home, but couldn't fit
everything in the plane into the SUV.

Get an A36 better than both in every way. My A36 has a useful load of 1345
lbs and cruises @ 168 kts.
"El Maximo" wrote in message
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"gwengler" wrote in message
oups.com...

As far as utility goes, the C182 is unbeatable in
that class. Look at weight, weight & balance issues, short field take
off and landing distances, winter operation, rough airfield operation,
etc. etc.

Two friends of mine got stranded by weather on their way back from Oshkosh
a couple years back. They rented an Expedition to drive home, but couldn't
fit everything in the plane into the SUV.

On 6/13/2007 11:00:31 AM, "El Maximo" wrote:

They rented an Expedition to drive home, but couldn't fit
everything in the plane into the SUV.

Are you sure it was an Expedition? I could see that with a Ford Explorer, but
an Expedition? Having a tough time accepting this one.

--
Peter

"Peter R." wrote in message
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On 6/13/2007 11:00:31 AM, "El Maximo" wrote:

They rented an Expedition to drive home, but couldn't fit
everything in the plane into the SUV.

Are you sure it was an Expedition? I could see that with a Ford Explorer,
but
an Expedition? Having a tough time accepting this one.


Maybe it was an Explorer. I wasn't there.

Peter R. wrote:
On 6/13/2007 11:00:31 AM, "El Maximo" wrote:

They rented an Expedition to drive home, but couldn't fit
everything in the plane into the SUV.

Are you sure it was an Expedition? I could see that with a Ford Explorer, but
an Expedition? Having a tough time accepting this one.


I can believe it. I had a full up Chevy Suburban and the interior
volume was about the same as I could pack in the Navion (using the
baggage compartment and the rear seats).

The 182 isn't any smaller on the inside than the Navion (about the
same I believe).

El Maximo wrote:
"gwengler" wrote in message
oups.com...

As far as utility goes, the C182 is unbeatable in
that class. Look at weight, weight & balance issues, short field take
off and landing distances, winter operation, rough airfield operation,
etc. etc.

Two friends of mine got stranded by weather on their way back from Oshkosh a
couple years back. They rented an Expedition to drive home, but couldn't fit
everything in the plane into the SUV.

I can tell you from personal experience that a C182 baggage area will
hold more than the trunk of a Nissan Altima.

El Maximo wrote:
"gwengler" wrote in message
oups.com...

As far as utility goes, the C182 is unbeatable in
that class. Look at weight, weight & balance issues, short field take
off and landing distances, winter operation, rough airfield operation,
etc. etc.

Two friends of mine got stranded by weather on their way back from Oshkosh a
couple years back. They rented an Expedition to drive home, but couldn't fit
everything in the plane into the SUV.



That has urban legend written all over it.

Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
El Maximo wrote:

Two friends of mine got stranded by weather on their way back from
Oshkosh a couple years back. They rented an Expedition to drive home, but
couldn't fit everything in the plane into the SUV.

That has urban legend written all over it.

Matt

I don't think it qualifies as a legend. Maybe BS, but not legend status yet.

As I posted earlier, it may have been an Explorer. I know it was a Skylane,
and I know it was a Ford.

Gwengler,

a) parachute equipped airplane pilots tend to assume greater
risk ("all I have to do is to pull the handle")


Any kind of factual support for that statement? Even a hint would
surprise me.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)