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Old July 18th 07, 04:07 AM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.simulators
Angelo Campanella
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Default MS Flight simulator problem: rudder over reacting

SilkB wrote:
FSX is great but I have a problem (and in a way I think happened in
older versions of MSFS): when I use the rudder to maintain runway
alignment, it seems like the plane is jerking left and right a few
times until its settles back.


I have noticed that with all of the MS products. I think it has to do
with the pot and digitizing algorithm to read that all pots. I have yet
to seea smooth algoritm in this regard. I suspect that MS is just plain
lazy in not polishing up this facet. A LOT better can be done.

As I am in short final I try to use the
rudder to keep myself aligned. If I apply right rudder, as soon as I
let it go the plane jerks left then right and left until the yaw
dampens.


Linearity and lack of baclash are words not found in MS dictionary. It
reminds me how stupid they can be. About the same mentality that
alloewed FS to fly into (through) buildings. 9-11 resulted, IMHO.

Now, I fly the Cessna 172 (I didn't mention this was done in C-172) in
real life I the plane does not react that way. I turned P factor, gyro
and all that other fun stuff off but I still see the problem. I even
tried to lower the rudder pedals sensitivity but that did not help
either.


I always find my (real) flying is a lot smoother after a few FS
sessions. My landngs are also much better!

If anyone knows what the problem is or has any idea on a direction, I
would appreciate the help.


Learn to ive with it.

Be alert for (non-MS) fixes.

Angelo Campanella

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Old July 18th 07, 04:31 AM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.simulators
Crash Lander[_1_]
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Default MS Flight simulator problem: rudder over reacting

"angelo Campanella" wrote in message
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Linearity and lack of baclash are words not found in MS dictionary. It
reminds me how stupid they can be. About the same mentality that alloewed
FS to fly into (through) buildings. 9-11 resulted, IMHO.
Angelo Campanella


So you believe that Microsoft is responsible for 9-11?
Hope you got your flame proof jocks on mate.
Crash Lander
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But I'm never wrong!


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Old July 20th 07, 02:32 AM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.simulators
Angelo Campanella
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Default MS Flight simulator problem: rudder over reacting



Crash Lander wrote:
"angelo Campanella" wrote in message
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Linearity and lack of backlash are words not found in MS dictionary. It
reminds me how stupid they can be. About the same mentality that alloewed
FS to fly into (through) buildings. 9-11 resulted, IMHO.
Angelo Campanella

So you believe that Microsoft is responsible for 9-11?
Hope you got your flame proof jocks on mate.


Agreed...

I have another:

Mayor Daley's decision to trash Meigs Field (for general aviation use)
might have been inspired by FS's use of Meigs Field as home base, noting
that the capability to fly to the Sears Tower as noted..

Just musing....one never knows what permeates the minds of politicians,
paranoid as they may be.


Angelo campanella

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Old July 20th 07, 02:43 PM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.simulators
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Default MS Flight simulator problem: rudder over reacting

angelo Campanella wrote:
politicians, paranoid as they may be.




Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean you aren't being followed...

BTW - I'd go to a different brand of glue......


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Old July 20th 07, 04:13 PM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.simulators
Jay B
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Default MS Flight simulator problem: rudder over reacting

On Jul 20, 6:43 am, "ManhattanMan" wrote:
angelo Campanella wrote:
politicians, paranoid as they may be.


Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean you aren't being followed...

BTW - I'd go to a different brand of glue......


"Paranoid? Paranoid!?! WHO Told You I Was Paranoid!!!???!!!"

;O)

Jay Beckman
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Chandler, AZ
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Old July 23rd 07, 03:44 AM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.simulators
Crash Lander[_1_]
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Default MS Flight simulator problem: rudder over reacting

"Jay B" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jul 20, 6:43 am, "ManhattanMan" wrote:
angelo Campanella wrote:
politicians, paranoid as they may be.


Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean you aren't being followed...

BTW - I'd go to a different brand of glue......


"Paranoid? Paranoid!?! WHO Told You I Was Paranoid!!!???!!!"

;O)

Jay Beckman


The guy in the black suit that's standing behind you!
Oh, and the little green Martian that's standing next to him.
Crash Lander
--
http://straightandlevel1973.spaces.live.com/
I'm not always right,
But I'm never wrong!


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Old July 19th 07, 03:21 PM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.simulators
SilkB
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Default MS Flight simulator problem: rudder over reacting

Guys,
Thanks for all you comments.
The solution lies in the CH control manager. At first, I didn't fiddle
with it because I thought MS knew what they were doing but I guess CH
knew better. What did the trick for me was not only the sensitivity
but also being able to control the curves. It took a lot of iterations
until I got to something I can use - I am sure I will have to play
with it more in the future.

Silk

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Old July 19th 07, 03:27 PM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.simulators
SilkB
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Default MS Flight simulator problem: rudder over reacting



On Jul 17, 8:07 pm, angelo Campanella wrote:
SilkB wrote:
FSX is great but I have a problem (and in a way I think happened in
older versions of MSFS): when I use the rudder to maintain runway
alignment, it seems like the plane is jerking left and right a few
times until its settles back.


I have noticed that with all of the MS products. I think it has to do
with the pot and digitizing algorithm to read that all pots. I have yet
to seea smooth algoritm in this regard. I suspect that MS is just plain
lazy in not polishing up this facet. A LOT better can be done.

As I am in short final I try to use the
rudder to keep myself aligned. If I apply right rudder, as soon as I
let it go the plane jerks left then right and left until the yaw
dampens.


Linearity and lack of baclash are words not found in MS dictionary. It
reminds me how stupid they can be. About the same mentality that
alloewed FS to fly into (through) buildings. 9-11 resulted, IMHO.

Now, I fly the Cessna 172 (I didn't mention this was done in C-172) in
real life I the plane does not react that way. I turned P factor, gyro
and all that other fun stuff off but I still see the problem. I even
tried to lower the rudder pedals sensitivity but that did not help
either.


I always find my (real) flying is a lot smoother after a few FS
sessions. My landngs are also much better!

If anyone knows what the problem is or has any idea on a direction, I
would appreciate the help.


Learn to ive with it.

Be alert for (non-MS) fixes.

Angelo Campanella



Guys,
Thanks for all you comments.
The solution lies in the CH control manager. At first, I didn't fiddle
with it because I thought MS knew what they were doing but I guess CH
knew better. What did the trick for me was not only the sensitivity
but also being able to control the curves. It took a lot of iterations
until I got to something I can use - I am sure I will have to play
with it more in the future.

Silk

 




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