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Old September 19th 03, 03:12 PM
Pete
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Canada is good to us homebuilders. The only downside is the $0.70 Canadian
dollar.

We have an 'advanced ultralight' regulatory category which is a real
loophole for heavy two-passenger 'ultralights' - which are actually anything
under 1200lbs. Licensing for these can be a Rec pilot permit or
Ultralight-instructor rating.

For a homebuilt 1200lbs our regs are simlar to the US, but without the
liability issues, one extra pre-closeout inspection and the Rec pilot permit
makes life easier to fly anywhere in Canada with 1 passenger, non-complex,
day VFR only.

Cheers,
Pete
Europa A239

"Ed Wischmeyer" wrote in message
...
I currently live in the Netherlands and I'm looking to relocate.
I've long wanted to learn to fly and build a light (experimental and/or
ultralight) airplane and I'm wondering which countries would be well

suited
for that, economically and with regards to permits/licenses.


The US seems to be in the lead, but the Australian regulations just
loosened up a whole lot. Don't know about the relative cost of living,
taxes, and all that, or where the kits, fuel, etc, are cheaper. US
insurance and liability are out of control, though. Maybe somebody else

knows.

Ed Wischmeyer



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Old September 19th 03, 04:02 PM
Lukas
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"Pete" wrote in
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Canada is good to us homebuilders. The only downside is the $0.70
Canadian dollar.

We have an 'advanced ultralight' regulatory category which is a real
loophole for heavy two-passenger 'ultralights' - which are actually
anything under 1200lbs. Licensing for these can be a Rec pilot permit
or Ultralight-instructor rating.

For a homebuilt 1200lbs our regs are simlar to the US, but without
the liability issues, one extra pre-closeout inspection and the Rec
pilot permit makes life easier to fly anywhere in Canada with 1
passenger, non-complex, day VFR only.


Very interesting, the 1200lbs. category. In US regulations, I recall a
maximum speed in level flight for Ultralights, which was pretty low (don't
recall the precise figure, something like 60mph), but I might be mixing
something up there.
Do you know if the Canadian "advanced ultralight" category has a speed
limit?

So far, good to homebuilders: US, Canada, Australia. A bit as I expected.
Does anyone know about the conditions for homebuilders in Europe?

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Old September 19th 03, 06:16 PM
Fred in Florida
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Very interesting, the 1200lbs. category. In US regulations, I recall a
maximum speed in level flight for Ultralights, which was pretty low (don't
recall the precise figure, something like 60mph), but I might be mixing
something up there.
Do you know if the Canadian "advanced ultralight" category has a speed
limit?

So far, good to homebuilders: US, Canada, Australia. A bit as I expected.
Does anyone know about the conditions for homebuilders in Europe?


Lukas --

France must be pretty good, as they seem to have more homebuilts than anyone
else in Europe.

Fred in Florida



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Old September 20th 03, 03:36 AM
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"Fred in Florida" wrote in message ...
So far, good to homebuilders: US, Canada, Australia. A bit as I expected.
Does anyone know about the conditions for homebuilders in Europe?


Lukas --

France must be pretty good, as they seem to have more homebuilts than anyone
else in Europe.


You might ask on the Emerauders group on yahoo. Claude Piel was a
prolific French designer, and a lot of his designs are flying in
Europe and the UK.
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Old September 25th 03, 06:53 PM
Gil G.
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:16:33 GMT, "Fred in Florida"
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Very interesting, the 1200lbs. category. In US regulations, I recall a
maximum speed in level flight for Ultralights, which was pretty low (don't
recall the precise figure, something like 60mph), but I might be mixing
something up there.
Do you know if the Canadian "advanced ultralight" category has a speed
limit?

So far, good to homebuilders: US, Canada, Australia. A bit as I expected.
Does anyone know about the conditions for homebuilders in Europe?


Lukas --

France must be pretty good, as they seem to have more homebuilts than anyone
else in Europe.

Fred in Florida


Hello,

There are a lot of designs from France, but regulations and the cost
of flying are overwhelming, unless you choose ultralights. Still,
you'll pay as much over there for a litre than you'd pay in the US for
a gallon!

Gil.
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Old September 19th 03, 06:36 PM
Pete
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the list of advanced ultralights acceptable here in Canada:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/civilaviation/ge...ncedullist.htm

just take your pick.

I don't believe there is a max speed, just a min indicated stall speed of
45mph (I think).

Cheers,
Pete
Europa builder A239


"Lukas" wrote in message
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Do you know if the Canadian "advanced ultralight" category has a speed
limit?




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Old September 20th 03, 02:53 AM
Kevin Horton
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:12:40 -0400, Pete wrote:

Canada is good to us homebuilders. The only downside is the $0.70
Canadian dollar.

We have an 'advanced ultralight' regulatory category which is a real
loophole for heavy two-passenger 'ultralights' - which are actually
anything under 1200lbs. Licensing for these can be a Rec pilot permit or
Ultralight-instructor rating.

For a homebuilt 1200lbs our regs are simlar to the US, but without the
liability issues, one extra pre-closeout inspection and the Rec pilot
permit makes life easier to fly anywhere in Canada with 1 passenger,
non-complex, day VFR only.

Cheers,
Pete
Europa A239

"Ed Wischmeyer" wrote in message
...
I currently live in the Netherlands and I'm looking to relocate. I've
long wanted to learn to fly and build a light (experimental and/or
ultralight) airplane and I'm wondering which countries would be well

suited
for that, economically and with regards to permits/licenses.


The US seems to be in the lead, but the Australian regulations just
loosened up a whole lot. Don't know about the relative cost of living,
taxes, and all that, or where the kits, fuel, etc, are cheaper. US
insurance and liability are out of control, though. Maybe somebody else

knows.

Ed Wischmeyer


Back before the events of 11 Sept 01, I would have said Canada and the US
were pretty much a toss up in terms of freedom of flying. Each had their
advantadges and disadvantages. But now I think Canada comes out ahead. No
pop-up TFRs. No TFRs around nuclear reactors or sporting events. No
security Nazis at the TSA.

Also, there is a Notice of Proposed Amendment to the Canadian Aviation
Regulations that will officially legalize hiring out the building of a
homebuilt aircraft (if it ever gets approved). See:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/civilaviation/RegServ/Affairs/carac/NPAs/MM/Archives/jun01/2001050.htm

--
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Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/

 




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