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Old September 1st 07, 02:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke[_2_]
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

On Aug 31, 7:40 pm, Mike Granby wrote:
Another witness mentioned an engine sputter


Whatever the cause of a crash, there's always someone who hears the
engine splutter...


All aircraft engines sputter, that's just the nature of how they work.
They don't sound like BMV engines.


Is it possible the pilot decided to abort after he was airborne? The engine
sounded strong and the airplane came off fine at rotation, then it seems to
run out of steam. Or was that simply due to its climbing out of ground
effect?


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Old September 1st 07, 03:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dan Luke" wrote

Is it possible the pilot decided to abort after he was airborne?

Surely not. There was not a place to land, anywhere. Plus, he did not push
the nose down, at all.

The engine sounded strong and the airplane came off fine at rotation, then
it seems to run out of steam. Or was that simply due to its climbing out
of ground effect?


That would be my guess. It also looked to me like he pulled the nose up, a
tiny bit more, and without the ground effect, that was all it took to get on
the back side of the power curve.

That in itself is a good lesson to be learned. Try to practice recognizing
the back side of the power curve, in slow flight.
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Old September 1st 07, 05:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Dan Luke wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

On Aug 31, 7:40 pm, Mike Granby wrote:
Another witness mentioned an engine sputter
Whatever the cause of a crash, there's always someone who hears the
engine splutter...


All aircraft engines sputter, that's just the nature of how they work.
They don't sound like BMV engines.


Is it possible the pilot decided to abort after he was airborne? The engine
sounded strong and the airplane came off fine at rotation, then it seems to
run out of steam. Or was that simply due to its climbing out of ground
effect?


It definitely wasn't obvious from the vantage point of the camera.
Could have been wind shear, coming out of ground effect too soon, engine
trouble, etc.

Matt
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Old September 1st 07, 06:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Luke Skywalker
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Default Bonanza crash caught on video

On Sep 1, 10:35 am, Matt Whiting wrote:
Dan Luke wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:


On Aug 31, 7:40 pm, Mike Granby wrote:
Another witness mentioned an engine sputter
Whatever the cause of a crash, there's always someone who hears the
engine splutter...


All aircraft engines sputter, that's just the nature of how they work.
They don't sound like BMV engines.


Is it possible the pilot decided to abort after he was airborne? The engine
sounded strong and the airplane came off fine at rotation, then it seems to
run out of steam. Or was that simply due to its climbing out of ground
effect?


It definitely wasn't obvious from the vantage point of the camera.
Could have been wind shear, coming out of ground effect too soon, engine
trouble, etc.

Matt


The only thing that can be said with any certianty in the
investigation phase right now is that performance factors can be
eliminated rather quickly.

If it isnt those on points menaing that the numbers dont add up then
there are some other things that bear looking into and might have some
lessons for all of us.

otherwise it is all just "Gerald Rivers" talk.

Robert

 




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