Is Moller at it again?

In article
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"John A. Weeks III" wrote:

In article ,
Bob Fry wrote:

"JW" == John A Weeks, John writes:

JW How do you mean "at it again"? Moller has been in business
JW for many years. They have had several highly successful
JW products, and they continue to develop their prototypes for
JW flying vehicles.

If a business can consist of promoting a completely impractical
machine, and products being successfully scammed grants and
investments, then I agree with you.

So, do you consider the Wright Brothers and Bell Helicopters
to be scams, also? One used a bicycle shop to fund a 20 year
long quest for powered flight, while the other spent 15 years
and 1.5-billion developing the tilt-rotor aircraft. How is
that any different from Moller manufacturing products like
mufflers and motors, and doing contract R&D, to fund his
dream of the flying car? In your world, would you have
put someone like Dean Kaman in prison for using profits from
his dialysis machine to fund the design of the Segway human
transporter? I guess you would have been leading the effort
to have Galileo blinded for looking into the heavens with
his telescope.

-john-

There is a HUGE difference between the Wrights, Sikorsky and BEll from
Moller.

The former used a methodical engineering and scientific approach to
developing their machines BEFORE they announced them, whereas Moller,
for at least 30 years, has announced his machines before they flew
successfully.

He does not hold an aeronautical engineering degree, is not a pilot and
apparently has no clue as to how aircraft fly or operate. His machine is
a Rube Goldberg contraption with 8 engines, all of which must be
operating in perfect tune and "electronically synchronized".

He has never had even one successful test flight without a tether or a
crane keeping the thing in the air.

How many ways can you spell "scam" or pronounce "snake oil"?

I'm reminded of something attributed to Sikorsky that said something like:
All designers should fly their designs. That way we would only have good
designers.

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In article
,
"John A. Weeks III" wrote:

In article ,
Bob Fry wrote:

"JW" == John A Weeks, John writes:

JW How do you mean "at it again"? Moller has been in business
JW for many years. They have had several highly successful
JW products, and they continue to develop their prototypes for
JW flying vehicles.

If a business can consist of promoting a completely impractical
machine, and products being successfully scammed grants and
investments, then I agree with you.

So, do you consider the Wright Brothers and Bell Helicopters
to be scams, also? One used a bicycle shop to fund a 20 year
long quest for powered flight, while the other spent 15 years
and 1.5-billion developing the tilt-rotor aircraft. How is
that any different from Moller manufacturing products like
mufflers and motors, and doing contract R&D, to fund his
dream of the flying car? In your world, would you have
put someone like Dean Kaman in prison for using profits from
his dialysis machine to fund the design of the Segway human
transporter? I guess you would have been leading the effort
to have Galileo blinded for looking into the heavens with
his telescope.

-john-

There is a HUGE difference between the Wrights, Sikorsky and BEll from
Moller.

The former used a methodical engineering and scientific approach to
developing their machines BEFORE they announced them, whereas Moller,
for at least 30 years, has announced his machines before they flew
successfully.

He does not hold an aeronautical engineering degree, is not a pilot and
apparently has no clue as to how aircraft fly or operate. His machine is
a Rube Goldberg contraption with 8 engines, all of which must be
operating in perfect tune and "electronically synchronized".

He has never had even one successful test flight without a tether or a
crane keeping the thing in the air.

How many ways can you spell "scam" or pronounce "snake oil"?