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I have a wire guard in my ASW 24 (USA) and like it. The chances of my
rolling through a wire fence are very small but it was cheap insurance when I ordered the glider (IIRC ~$300) and I've kept it in for 15 years despite the compromises (see below). I know of at least one other pilot here in the US who bought one after seeing mine. It's also a nice place to hang a rearview mirror, which is useful at times. I also use a 6-point safety harness so that IF I crash in an otherwise survivable manner, I won't submarine and end up with the lap belt around my chest as I've seen happen. FWIW, I'm not sure whether a helmet would have saved Robbie Robertson or my father, Joe Bearden. Serious trauma to the back of the head was a factor in both of their fatal glider crashes (a lead shot bag and gel-cel battery, respectively) but there were other injuries, too (a crushed chest in one case caused by the lap belt). I've also had an ELT in the cockpit for 15 years not because I think I'll crash but just in case. Same comment about cheap insurance. I'd consider wearing a helmet if it were small and light enough and didn't interfere with vision more than, say, the hat I already wear. I'm actually more vulnerable than most of you to head injuries, ironically because of the wire guard. In the 24 it comprises two bars that pass on either side of my head before meeting a loop over the instrument panel. When I wrote Scheicher years ago, they were very forthcoming with information. Yes, it interferes with visibilty (but no worse than in gliders with two-piece canopies). No, it probably won't stop an electrical wire (but might deflect it up and over my head enough to save me). Yes, I could hit my head in a crash (but it would be a glancing blow). No, it doesn't reduce headroom (I'm 6.3"--190 cm)...but it might prevent me from wearing a helmet! Nothing in life is certain. I do many things in gliding to improve my survival odds just in case I make a mistake or something terrible happens. I've seen one glider pilot wearing a helmet but it was many years ago and way too big for most of us. I'd buy and wear one if it represented a reasonable compromise of added safety, visibility, comfort (including cooling in Uvalde), cost, etc. Without seeing data on the incidence of head injuries in gliders and the impact on survivability and medical costs and our insurance rates, I'd certain oppose mandatory helmets at this point in time, but I don't think that's what Tim was suggesting. I think this is an interesting and useful discussion and the type of the thing that makes plowing through RAS worthwhile. ![]() welcome comments from ex-military and other pilots who've worn helmets for extended periods of time. Chip Bearden ASW 24 "JB" USA |
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Chip Bearden wrote:
I think this is an interesting and useful discussion and the type of the thing that makes plowing through RAS worthwhile. ![]() welcome comments from ex-military and other pilots who've worn helmets for extended periods of time. In the fighter aircraft environment it's an unquestioned necessity and we learned to live with it and were glad to have the helmet. A lot of things can happen in a bailout, from the reason for the bailout through egress from the aircraft to the landing and including the circumstances you find yourself in once on the ground. You can get hurt in any or all of those phases, and a helmet is important protection for your sensory and decision-making apparatus. The same goes for abnormal landing situations, of course. Though my DG-303 has enough room under the canopy that I might be able to wear a small light helmet, it would undoubtedly restrict my ability to move my head around in the cockpit and therefor limit my ability to see to the sides, down, up, and aft--especially up and aft, a place I want to be able to see in a thermal with other gliders. It would also mar the inner surface of the canopy, and contribute reflections in the plexiglas. A soft dark helmet covering to solve those problems may contribute to heat build-up, but there would be plenty anyway. The bucket hat does not pose similar restrictions, as it can be bent out of the way or taken off with a sweep of the free hand. It can also be dampened for cooling. The seating position in my glider and the space in the cockpit are vastly different from what I had to work with in USAF jets. I will retain my ability to clear the airspace in preference to wearing a helmet in my glider, and in preference to adding more weight to my 64-year old semi-reclined neck during those long hours of soaring. I would seriously consider wearing a helmet in the tow plane, however. Jack |
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On Sep 16, 1:29 am, J a c k wrote:
Chip Bearden wrote: I think this is an interesting and useful discussion and the type of the thing that makes plowing through RAS worthwhile. ![]() welcome comments from ex-military and other pilots who've worn helmets for extended periods of time. In the fighter aircraft environment it's an unquestioned necessity and we learned to live with it and were glad to have the helmet. A lot of things can happen in a bailout, from the reason for the bailout through egress from the aircraft to the landing and including the circumstances you find yourself in once on the ground. You can get hurt in any or all of those phases, and a helmet is important protection for your sensory and decision-making apparatus. The same goes for abnormal landing situations, of course. Though my DG-303 has enough room under the canopy that I might be able to wear a small light helmet, it would undoubtedly restrict my ability to move my head around in the cockpit and therefor limit my ability to see to the sides, down, up, and aft--especially up and aft, a place I want to be able to see in a thermal with other gliders. It would also mar the inner surface of the canopy, and contribute reflections in the plexiglas. A soft dark helmet covering to solve those problems may contribute to heat build-up, but there would be plenty anyway. The bucket hat does not pose similar restrictions, as it can be bent out of the way or taken off with a sweep of the free hand. It can also be dampened for cooling. The seating position in my glider and the space in the cockpit are vastly different from what I had to work with in USAF jets. I will retain my ability to clear the airspace in preference to wearing a helmet in my glider, and in preference to adding more weight to my 64-year old semi-reclined neck during those long hours of soaring. I would seriously consider wearing a helmet in the tow plane, however. Jack I 2nd that part about the tow plane - we had a tow pilot seriously injured when he landed short due to an engine malfunction. To make matters worse, the plane only had a lap belt (a shoulder belt was installed afterward). The plane was a Citabria, which has lots of exposed steel tubing and sharp pointy things. I read of a pilot killed in an otherwise survivable accident when his head hit a long bolt in the cockpit (it had been replaced for some reason and they didn't have the proper length bolt on hand). Visibility and fatigue are over-riding factors for use of helmets in gliders, however. A Ruger hook on front hinged canopis is definitely something to consider (this captures the rear of the canopy during ejection, preventing incapacitation). Of course, glider design has definitely improved thru the years. So buying a newer one isn't a bad idea either (I am begining to sense an indisputable argument for trading in the old gal - glider that is). Tom |
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