UFO HeliThruster and IFR?

Jim Stewart wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
virtuPIC wrote:
Yes, I confess. I don't know much about rotorcrafts. Especially
regarding gyrocopters my knowledge is even more limited.

However, on the net I just stumbled over UFO HeliThruster. Rumors are
that it is rather stable. The manufacturer not only sells kits but
also (FAA-?) certified planes.

If I would buy such a certified HeliThruster, fit it with the
necessary instruments, and give it an N-registration, would I be
allowed to fly it IFR given that I had the necessary pilot
certificates? Would I be allowed to fly it outside US?

Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
virtuPIC

With the certified probably not. With the EX-AB sure, if you can get
the DAR to write the limitations correctly.

If you do this let us know. We are always looking for a deal on good
used avionics and salvage is usually a pretty good place to look.

LOL. I was wondering how you'd bring
it all together in the end...

You might also want to ask yourself why
so many of the pictures show pilots wearing
helmets....

You might also want to ask yourself why
so many of the pictures show pilots wearing
helmets....

Yes, indeed. I've been wondering a long time...UFO claims they are
safe. And I can't imagine an accident where a helmet would be of real
use. Is it just my lack of fantasy? Lack of knowledge?

Well, since there seems to be no FAA-certified HeliThruster answers
have become less interesting. However, there might be some gyrocopter
with closed cabin that is easy to handle, stable, able to reach some
100 mph, and IFR-capable. (?)

virtuPIC
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virtuPIC wrote:
You might also want to ask yourself why
so many of the pictures show pilots wearing
helmets....

Yes, indeed. I've been wondering a long time...UFO claims they are
safe. And I can't imagine an accident where a helmet would be of real
use. Is it just my lack of fantasy? Lack of knowledge?

Well, since there seems to be no FAA-certified HeliThruster answers
have become less interesting. However, there might be some gyrocopter
with closed cabin that is easy to handle, stable, able to reach some
100 mph, and IFR-capable. (?)

virtuPIC

I don't think you will find any gyrocopter that is suitable for IFR flight.
It just isn't the nature of the beast.

I came across an abandoned autogyro in the Oklahoma panhandle in a farmer's
field alongside his other abandoned trucks and tractors. It was a two-place
tandem fully enclosed fiberglass cockpit with what I believe was a 260 HP
engine. I think it was built by Aerospace Industries if I remember right,
and it carried an N-number registration. I'm pretty sure it would cruise
above 100 mph because it had a pretty small rotor diameter.

I used to regret I didn't try to talk the guy into letting me haul it out of
his field for him ;-)

--
Jim Carter
Rogers, Arkansas

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
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I think it was built by Aerospace Industries if I remember right, and it
carried an N-number registration. I'm pretty sure it would cruise above 100 mph
because it had a pretty small rotor diameter.

Probably this:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaver.../5249/a18a.htm

Vaughn

"Vaughn Simon" wrote in message
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http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaver.../5249/a18a.htm

Another certified autogyro, the McCulloch J-2:
http://dayton.hq.nasa.gov/IMAGES/SMA...000-001904.jpg

Vaughn

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:09:00 GMT, "Vaughn Simon"
wrote in
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"Vaughn Simon" wrote in message
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http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaver.../5249/a18a.htm

Another certified autogyro, the McCulloch J-2:
http://dayton.hq.nasa.gov/IMAGES/SMA...000-001904.jpg

Vaughn


And, of course, there is this early autogiro:

http://www.aviation-history.com/airm...t-Autogiro.htm
Pitcairn PCA-2 Autogiro
Amelia Earhart’s second Autogiro crash is known from a single
source, a letter39 to author Susan Butler from Helen Collins
MacElwee, sister of Amelia’s New York, Philadelphia and Washington
Airway Corporation (NYPWA) colleague Paul Collins. Paul Collins
and his sister Helen witnessed the second accident. After a
"rather erratic" Autogiro flight she made after taking off from
the airfield in Camden, New Jersey, she "finally landed on a
fence. Amelia stepped out frustrated and furious, and announced,
"I’ll never get in one of those machines again. I couldn’t handle
it at all." Earhart’s third accident in an Autogiro occurred
during her subsequent Beech-Nut tour while at the Michigan State
Fair in Detroit, Michigan on September 12, 1931. Attempting a slow
landing in front of the grandstand, she failed to level off in
time and dropped twenty feet to the ground. She wrote her mother:
"My giro spill was a freak accident. The landing gear gave way
from a defect and I ground-looped only. The rotors were smashed as
usual with giros, but there wasn’t even a jar."


Photographs of ten gyrocopters he
http://www.gyrosaway.com/MoreAbout.htm


The Magni Gyro M-16 is in current production in Italy, and available
for purchase in the US: http://www.magnigyro.com/
Photographs:
http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...nct_entry=true

Vaughn,

everyone and their brother must have hit that geocities URL because it
is now "down" due to exceeding its bandwidth.

--
Jim Carter
Rogers, Arkansas
"Vaughn Simon" wrote in message
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"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...
I think it was built by Aerospace Industries if I remember right, and it
carried an N-number registration. I'm pretty sure it would cruise above
100 mph because it had a pretty small rotor diameter.

Probably this:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaver.../5249/a18a.htm

Vaughn

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
et...
Vaughn,

everyone and their brother must have hit that geocities URL because it is
now "down" due to exceeding its bandwidth.

I just got it OK, but that probably locked it out for a while. Anyhow, just
Google "Air & Space 18A" and there are probably other sites out there. In fact,
here is a good picture of one in flight:
http://www.thejumpingfrog.com/si/1208795.html

Vaughn

"Vaughn Simon" wrote in message
...

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...
I think it was built by Aerospace Industries if I remember right, and it
carried an N-number registration. I'm pretty sure it would cruise above
100 mph because it had a pretty small rotor diameter.

Probably this:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaver.../5249/a18a.htm


I saw one of these at the Hill Top Fly-In. Prettty neat. I think it sold
while it was there.