Midair Over Long Island

....and there were no injuries, thank God. Google for news articles. It was
between a Cessna 152 and a Piper Saratoga. ATC, with a veteran at the mic,
was excellent in their handling of the situation. ATC even called-out the
Saratoga traffic to the Cessna but I guess he didn't see it.

For audio, listen to here :
http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kf...2007-2130Z.mp3
The traffic is called out to Cessna 72M at around 28 minutes

and he http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kf...2007-2200Z.mp3
for the rest including the landings.

I guess I put up that outdoor scanner antenna just in time Otherwise the
ground audio would have been inaudible.

Marco

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On Oct 22, 11:05 am, "Marco Leon" wrote:
...and there were no injuries, thank God. Google for news articles. It was
between a Cessna 152 and a Piper Saratoga. ATC, with a veteran at the mic,
was excellent in their handling of the situation. ATC even called-out the
Saratoga traffic to the Cessna but I guess he didn't see it.


I just saw the story on AvWeb.
It's a rare day when two GA acft meet in midair and everybody goes
home.

Marco Leon wrote:
...and there were no injuries, thank God. Google for news articles. It was
between a Cessna 152 and a Piper Saratoga.

Is it safe to assume the Saratoga won?

:P

TheSmokingGnu

The last midair over Long Island I remember was near Zahns Airport, between
two of the school's Cherokees in the early 1970's. The damage couldn't have
been too severe, as I rented both of those planes years later
"Marco Leon" wrote in message
...
...and there were no injuries, thank God. Google for news articles. It was
between a Cessna 152 and a Piper Saratoga. ATC, with a veteran at the mic,
was excellent in their handling of the situation. ATC even called-out the
Saratoga traffic to the Cessna but I guess he didn't see it.

For audio, listen to here :
http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kf...2007-2130Z.mp3
The traffic is called out to Cessna 72M at around 28 minutes

and he http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kf...2007-2200Z.mp3
for the rest including the landings.

I guess I put up that outdoor scanner antenna just in time Otherwise
the
ground audio would have been inaudible.

Marco

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On Oct 22, 12:52 pm, "tom418" wrote:
The last midair over Long Island I remember was near Zahns Airport, between
two of the school's Cherokees in the early 1970's. The damage couldn't have
been too severe, as I rented both of those planes years later "Marco Leon" wrote in message

...



...and there were no injuries, thank God. Google for news articles. It was
between a Cessna 152 and a Piper Saratoga. ATC, with a veteran at the mic,
was excellent in their handling of the situation. ATC even called-out the
Saratoga traffic to the Cessna but I guess he didn't see it.

For audio, listen to here :
http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kf...2007-2130Z.mp3
The traffic is called out to Cessna 72M at around 28 minutes

and hehttp://archive-server.liveatc.net/kf...2007-2200Z.mp3
for the rest including the landings.

I guess I put up that outdoor scanner antenna just in time Otherwise
the
ground audio would have been inaudible.

Marco

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If you swap paint, thats OK, but if you swap wings or tails...

"tom418" wrote in message
...
The last midair over Long Island I remember was near Zahns Airport,
between
two of the school's Cherokees in the early 1970's. The damage couldn't
have
been too severe, as I rented both of those planes years later

I believe there was one in 1994 and it was also between a Cessna and a
Piper. See: http://www.aopa.org/asf/ntsb/searchR...identifier=FRG on
04/09/1994

Their fates were not as positive as the most recent one. Considering the
amount of traffic, the mix between training flights, and the flight path
limitations due to KFRG's proximity to Class B, the small number of this
type of incident is a bit surprising (knock on wood).

Marco

While a bit confused at times once the crisis was largely over, I was very
impressed by the tower controller.
It's been a while since I lived in NY and flying in more peaceful skies in
the midwest I had forgotten the hectic nature of airports like this.
The thing I have always found about NY'ers (in whatever walk of life,
including atc) is that in a crisis they are worth their weight in gold.
The controller's "Cessna you are cleared to land if you can hear me" was
just what I would have wanted to hear in that Cessna in such circumstances!
Good to have a good outcome for once. I only witnessed one midair (at
Bartlesville OK) and it's not something you normally get back on the ground
in a good way from.
bb

Everytime tower or approach/departure issues a traffic alert to me and I
don't spot the traffic right away I get nervous.

I've told this story before, so will just hit the highlights:

Once I landed out of sequence after being unable to spot some of the
others I was supposed to follow. Turns out the controller was running
simultaneous left and right traffic on the same runway - and hadn't
told me.

David Johnson

On Oct 23, 12:53 am, Dave wrote:
Everytime tower or approach/departure issues a traffic alert to me and I
don't spot the traffic right away I get nervous.

I've told this story before, so will just hit the highlights:

Once I landed out of sequence after being unable to spot some of the
others I was supposed to follow. Turns out the controller was running
simultaneous left and right traffic on the same runway - and hadn't
told me.

David Johnson

There is a lot to be said for two strobes - top and bottom - and
landing lights ON, when in these traffic areas...

denny

"Denny" wrote in message
ps.com...

There is a lot to be said for two strobes - top and bottom - and
landing lights ON, when in these traffic areas...

I'm really glad they came out with the quartz halogen lamps for my airplane.
I keep the landing light on within 50 miles of the airport without worrying
about it burning out every ten hours.

Marco